Comment by kurtis_reed

19 days ago

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  • can we also blame the DNC for not holding an election for who would run against trump?

    Or the DNC for throwing Bernie under the bus in 2016 (he would have beaten trump)?

    Maybe the two party system has grown rotten to the core

    • No. You had a choice. I voted for Harris (who I do not like as a progressive) instead of chaos and destruction, others had the same choice. To not vote out of protest was a vote for this.

      Better luck next time. ~2M voters 55+ age out every year. Can we do better? Remains to be seen.

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    • No, DNC picking a bad candidate should be responsible for a D electoral loss, it is not responsible for Trump's electoral win. A lot of people seem to think only the DNC has agency in elections, only they should be responsible for outcomes.

    • You can blame the DNC for all the badness of Harris (the minimum badness you were able to choose in the election). You can't blame the DNC for all the difference between Kamala and Trump. That was entirely up to you.

    • I voted for Bernie in the primary, for Hilary; Biden; and Harris in the general elections. At no point did I think to myself "Now is the time to be an idealist about the DNC, right when we're combating fascism"

      The DNC is an embarrassment, the two party system is a democratic disaster, but accelerationists? They're evil.

  • That's rather reductionist for such a complex set of circumstances and events that led to the eventual results

    • > That's rather reductionist for such a complex set of circumstances and events that led to the eventual results

      I think this is usually true, but there hasn't really been a global shock of the sort we had in 2020 or 2008 or 2001.

      What would you say are the salient circumstances now?

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