Comment by canada_dry
18 days ago
To protect my privacy, I have a photoshopped drivers license with a photo of my dog that I've successfully used for verification (e.g. AirBnB) in the past.
Though, with AI being used I suspect it wouldn't pass any longer.
It used to be that on the internet, nobody knows you’re a dog. ;)
The perfect reply. Hats off to you, good sir.
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Huh. Can you do that? I wonder what is legal status of this. I used to make all sorts of fake IDs (pretty good ones!) when I was a teen (you know, for purposes such as going to clubs, buying alcohol), but of course this is literally a crime, and not even a "minor" one. Apparently, back then it didn't bother me much, but with age I became more cowardly, I must admit. So now I use my passport data more often than not, even though I am not really a fan of the idea of giving a scan of your documents to some random guy on AirBnB (although, with some obvious caption photoshopped on top, to make the scan less re-usable). I mean, it's just a matter of fact that everyone requires them, and it also has that weird status of "semi-secret thing" that you are somehow aren't supposed to give to anyone, and I still have close to zero understanding of how that works.
So, I suppose you shouldn't give your fake id (digital or physical) to a government officials. It also seems "obvious" that it's similarly unwise to give it to a bank. But you can do that to a random guy on AirBnB? A hotel? To a delivery service (Uber/Wolt/whatever)? Dicsord? Where is the line between a bank (a private commercial corporation) and Discord (a private commercial corporation)?
>>But you can do that to a random guy on AirBnB? A hotel? To a delivery service (Uber/Wolt/whatever)?
The "legal" line is usually around fraud - trying to obtain some financial gain by providing false information. There is nothing to gain by giving a fake ID to discord - but it probably violates some rules around unathorized access to computer systems.
It's definitely fraud, the consideration is access to their service.
It's still fraud
It's likely against the ToS rather than illegal. But if they're deleting IDs correctly after verifying I guess you just have to get past 30 days
The mere possession of a fake ID is illegal on its face, using it is fraud.
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At least where I'm from, the forgery or the possession of a forged ID is a criminal offense in itself, not matter the intent or whether it's actually used.
I'm not sure that photoshopping a dog in place of the portrait would qualify to though. It's immediately obvious that it is neither you nor a valid government issued document so doesn't that preclude it qualifying as forgery?
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Youtube flagged one of my accounts as a teenager because I watched a few pop videos (lol) and I was not able to trick it with fake IDs, though I didn't try all that hard.
I've been grabbing music from youtube for years. I don't mean commercial music. I mean talented enthusiast who does not sell their music anywhere. Rest assured, it will absolutely be gone one day, and they way things are going, it feels like it will be sooner rather than later.
The Distributed YouTube Archive project is, sadly, on Discord.
I tried to do this when LinkedIn forced me to upload an ID. It didn't work unfortunately. I see the good in this but I know it will be abused. I want to run away but I don't foresee any way that the powers-that-be will let the common person use the Internet without an approved ID in the future.
wdym, how did your dog driver license even pass before AI ?!
He's a handsome boy.
Guessing they probably just ran some rudimentary OCR on the image to compare the name and DOB. I modified the actual license# as well as the picture.
Well then what was the point? If you gave them an ID that matches your name and DOB, they still got an identity vector that can conclusively match to your physical, government-acknowledged identity.
Not having a correct photo or license number didn't really mean anything to them if their OCR didn't have any half-decent verification that would look at the fields where that information was expected to be, anyway.
The tech used some variant of OCR, presumably
well, any dog can pass the driving exam in US
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I found a picture of someone my age, gender, and background and used that in the past for some things.
But not even worth that effort for this. Not a subscriber, but probably won't ever use it again, either.
Just use Ai to make a non existent human face, might as well
There was a story a bit ago about people using video of someone turning their head from side to side to trick these systems. And of course naturally people will easily get past it.
This gives me some idea: just use AI to generate an ID.
You do realize this is wire fraud right?
Wire fraud is more than just lying to someone over the Internet. It requires a financial gain.