Comment by boca_honey

17 days ago

I think this will be the kneejerk reaction of many, but then you'll have to face the consequences (de facto social isolation) and probably acquiesce. I had the same reaction when platforms started asking for my cellphone number... after some years I just started giving it to them. Now I don't even think about it.

>but then you'll have to face the consequences (de facto social isolation) and probably acquiesce.

Nah I'm used to being lonely. Leaving these platforms shows how few truly deep friendships you have.

You get used to it.

>I had the same reaction when platforms started asking for my cellphone number... after some years I just started giving it to them.

Even when I gave Facebook my number, that wasn't enough. I drew a line at some point. If everyone else wants to sacrifice privacy for the sake of pseudo-community, so be it.

Then you and I are not the same. If a platform asks for more than I'm willing to give it, it's time to leave. I've done this enough times that it's simply routine. If it means I suffer "defacto social isolation", whatever that is, so beit. I'm old and I've cultivated a group of close nit friends that live nearby most of the year, we'll manage just fine without discord.

  • I don't socialize on Discord, I use it for work. That's why I don't care. I said that from the perspective of the people that are crying about Discord's move.

    The weird thing is that you give your personal info, including your biometrics, to your government and your bank. You probably weren't thrilled when they asked you for your finger prints but eventually you gave them anyway because the alternative was not having a bank account. Everybody folds in the end.

    What makes you think "corporations bad" but it's OK if governments and bankers do it? They're just as malicious and incompetent.

    This is like being afraid to fly when you drive every day which is 200 times more dangerous.

Then you decided to cave in and forego your privacy. Don't assume others will falter in the same fashion.

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    • >Too many hacker movies, dude.

      Too much fascism. They've used these relinquishes to build a database of people to go after based om race or political affiliation.

      Maybe they still will get me. But I'm not making it that easy for them.

I don’t sign up for those accounts, and I change my mobile number every 90 days.

  • Every 90 days? Wow. Can you elaborate on how that logically works? Like what about for doctors offices having your number on file and other similar situations.

    • My doctor’s office has my email and knows to use it. Half of the time I’m not even in the country where that phone number works.

      I just buy 90 day prepaid SIM cards. At the end of the 90 days I’m usually in another country.

      My Google Voice number is sufficient for authing to Signal, but I don’t give it out to vendors/services or use it for phone calls.

      I never receive any voice calls to my SIM card itself. Anyone who would want to call me knows to reach me on Signal. Anyone else, I don’t need to speak to them.

      Most of the time my voice conversations are in Google Meet calls, anyway. It’s almost always for clients who don’t like to type and would prefer to be synchronous instead of using their device’s built in dictation software.

"I used to resist the boot, too. Then I was successfully conditioned by the environment that's been engineered around me. Now I just lick it subconsciously."

  • I also thought like you when I was in my 20's. However... the addolescent need to "rise up" is the first thing to go when you actually start a family and develop a well balanced social network. If you play your cards right, soon enough, you won't care about all this.

    • I have a spouse and kids. I still stick to my guns. Both literally and figuratively. Speak for yourself.

    • If anything I'm more 'radical' pushing 50 than I was at 20. That "everyone gets more conservative as you age" adage is not universal.

      For me I was 'radicalized' by raising children to adulthood and seeing the broken world we're leaving to them. Living in the US, my eldest daughter has less rights than her mother did growing up. Capitulating to the demands of fascists is not the way to a better future. Complacency has a high cost, regardless of whether it affects you personally.

    • I sincerely hope you are merely goading folks on and don't actually believe the words you speak.

    • I'm 45. My friend, I still resist licking the boot. Stop believing that your experience is somehow more universal.

      I have a rich social network, I have a family, and now more than any time in my life do I think it's important to resist.

      Stop saying you'll get less radical as you age, it's just not the axiom you think it is.