Comment by estearum

15 days ago

Yes, two of them were just killed. Does that qualify as "having a tough time?"

And how many people live in Minnesota? What were they doing when they were killed?

  • I don't get your point. What proportion of residents does an event need to negatively impact for you to believe that it's hassling people?

    Surely it can't be 100%, right? No event in any major city, even horrific events, actually affect everyone.

  • > What were they doing when they were killed?

    One was returning from dropping off her 6 year old child at school.

    The other was videotaping ICE activity with one hand while holding out the other hand to show he was no was no threat.

    What is your point, exactly? Neither was doing anything illegal, neither was directly trying to interfere with ICE actions. (The first wasn't trying to interfere at all.)

    Although normally I'd say wait for the full evidence to be revealed, in this case (1) there's already a wealth of evidence from bystanders, and (2) the investigations are actively being interfered with so official evidence is not forthcoming.

    Those are the 2 citizens killed. CBP and ICE killed at least 25 other people in the field and at least 30 died in custody (one source cites 30-32, another 44).

    Apparently, the violence is necessary to deport at (checks notes) a lower rate than Biden's. It might make sense if the current enforcement was aimed at serious criminals, but only the rhetoric is. The current enforcement is much less selective. More damage, less gain.

    • A corollary I don't see mentioned enough by the morons who believe there are roving hordes of violent illegal criminals:

      Let's assume there was. Then what on earth is the administration doing tracking down and putting cuffs on so many people who do not fit in that category?

      Every seat in a detention center, courtroom, or plane filled by a random guy stopped in the Home Depot parking lot is a seat taken away from one of these allegedly numerous violent rapist/murders/whatever.

      So even if you were stupid enough to believe all the transparent bullshit from this gang of liars, they'd still be fucking awful!

      All this stuff does, in addition to squelching public appetite for immigration enforcement writ large, is keeps the actual bad guys inside the country even longer!