Comment by hvb2

4 months ago

Keep in mind that, especially for performance cars, the instant torque and low center of gravity (because those cells can go in the floor) really helps.

Yes, the added weight is bad for handling which is a shame especially in a car like this.

The weight savings aren't that big of a deal, they do that in every car and it's mostly marketing. But if you're one of those brands that can sell the same car, but use some fancy metals and such for a 50k markup, why would you not.

The Porsche Taycan and related Audi e-tron GT are considered basically the best-handling production cars built so far, and these come in at around 2.4 tons or something. They are of course quite low for EVs, barely taller than a 911 iirc.

  • Even the ridiculous 1019 hp Taycan Turbo GT Weissach edition (a 4-door car with no rear seats, such are the compromises made for the track) at best achieved 7:07.55 around the Nurburgring.

    A gas 911 GT3 RS with less than half the horsepower laps it in 6:49.3.

    The 911 by most measures is the slower car (10.9s 1/4 mile vs 9.2s for the Taycan, 184mph top speed vs 190 etc). The difference is the 911s superior handling and braking and that mostly comes down to the difference in weight.

    • I don’t think most automotive folks or enthusiasts (apart from the track crowd) would agree that car handling and chassis tuning can be expressed in a lap time, even if it is nordschleife.

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  • Alpine would disagree, the A290 EV is nearly a tonne lighter and has won awards as the 'Best Fun EV'.

    One simply can't make a tonne disappear, in handling terms.