Comment by johnnyfaehell

6 days ago

To be fair, most of the chaos is done by the devs. And then they did more chaos when they could automate their chaos. Maybe, we should teach developers how to code.

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bojan  6 days ago

Automation normally implies deterministic outcomes.

Developers all over the world are under pressure to use these improbability machines.

  • nradov  6 days ago

    Does it though? Even without LLMs, any sufficiently complex software can fail in ways that are effectively non-deterministic — at least from the customer or user perspective. For certain cases it becomes impossible to accurately predict outputs based on inputs. Especially if there are concurrency issues involved.

    Or for manufacturing automation, take a look at automobile safety recalls. Many of those can be traced back to automated processes that were somewhat stochastic and not fully deterministic.

    • necovek  6 days ago

      Impossible is a strong word when what you probably mean is "impractical": do you really believe that there is an actual unexplainable indeterminism in software programs? Including in concurrent programs.

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    • intended  6 days ago

      Yes, yes it does. In the every day, working use of the word, it does. We’ve gone so far down this path that theres entire degrees on just manufacturing process optimization and stability.