Comment by eviks

7 days ago

> Using a trackpad gesture is just as quick

Definitely not, many of swish gestures require you to move the mouse cursor to the title bar, which takes time, also holding a key and performing a simpler gesture can’t be slower than performing a more complicated gesture (which it needs to be to deconflict with regular mouse use)

Also many gestures have a delay built in so you can cancel or double down for a different functionally (close windows vs close app), so it’s slower by design.

> easier

It’s harder because you have to memorize more gestures and perform more complicated ones.

> more spatially natural

That makes no sense, the spatial movements are the same, can you give an example for resizing?

> and only uses one hand.

Yes, that’s the only potential benefit, unless, of course, your other hand is always near a corner, so it doesn’t matter

> I'm not always typing

That's fine, you don't need to type to have your left hand rest near the left near corner of the keyboard (it doesn’t even have to rest on the home row since you only need the corner)

> I'm not modelling 100% of my computer usage after "how to get RSI the fastest"

Well, you're, you've just moved your RSI to your right hand

Also hands have same length, so leaning back doesn't prevent leaving one finger on a modifier

Anyway, place your hands wherever you like them, it’s just that none of your arguments support it.

> Using a trackpad gesture is just as quick.

> Definitely not

Sounds like a you problem.

> easier.

> It's harder [...]

Sounds like a you problem.

> [...] because you have to memorise more gestures and perform more complicated ones.

Oh no, how will I ever remember (checks notes) swiping. On a Trackpad!? Insane.

> More spatially natural

> That makes no sense.

I swipe left, window goes left. I swipe right, window goes right. I swipe up, window goes up. I swipe down, windows goes down.

It's as close to actually flicking the windows around the space provided without getting a touch screen.

> and only uses one hand

We agree.

> unless, of course, your other hand is always near a corner

Corner of what?

> you don't need to type to have your left hand rest [...]

Big assumption that I'm left-handed. The modifiers on the right-hand side of some keyboards, including on notebooks, are seriously iffy.

> [...] rest near the left near corner of the keyboard

If my other arm isn't anywhere close to the computer, then it's nowhere near the keyboard, let alone the corner.

> you've just moved your RSI to your right hand

How often am I swiping windows? Barely.

Are you also saying any use of the trackpad or mouse, no matter how little, is automatically RSI?

Whereas having your fingers nearly-permanently at the ready over (or near the corner of) the keyboard is A-OK?

> Also hands have the same length, so leaning back doesn't prevent leaving one finger on a modifier

Back to the RSI angle because my hands are not glued to the keyboard. The way you seem to think so tells me you only sit at a desktop when using a computer, you never slouch, you never slump, you never use a notebook computer.

> it's just that none of your arguments support it.

Or your imagination cannot allow it.