Comment by nilslindemann

11 days ago

This is most definitely wrong. There will be some draws and even a few wins, though that's very rare indeed.

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umanwizard 11 days ago

When is the last time a human has beaten a computer in a fair chess game?

nilslindemann 10 days ago
A fair match has never been played between humans and computers. Let's say we have a fair match:
* 100 games, to have some statistical relevance. * One move per day, so that being tired is no disadvantage (engine can ponder all day). * Human has access to endgame tablebases and opening databases, like the engine. * Human can make notes and has a software like Chess Position Trainer, which can min max, like the engine.
If the human is a GM with Elo 2700+ I predict 25 draws and 5 wins for the human. The engine wins 70 games.
- Bootvis 10 days ago
  
  From the Stockfish docs at https://official-stockfish.github.io/docs/stockfish-wiki/Sto....
  > Rating Stockfish against a human scale, such as FIDE Elo, has become virtually impossible. The gap in strength is so large that a human player cannot secure the necessary draws or wins for an accurate Elo measurement.
  [1]: https://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/
- copper4eva 10 days ago
  
  You're way off the mark here on modern engine strength.
  There are many examples of top players playing Leela Knight Odds. And none of them even got remotely close to a decent record. Usually a few draws, and maybe a win. But almost entirely losses.
  And that is with knight odds. Without that, zero chance.

dyauspitr 10 days ago

It technically could happen but hasn’t so far.