Comment by shermantanktop
6 days ago
The chat is full of modern “art talk,” which is a highly specific way that modern (post 2000ish) artists blather on about their ideas and process. It started earlier but in 1980 there was more hippie talk and po-mo deconstruction lingo.
Point being, to someone outside the art world this might sound like how an artist thinks. But to me ear this a bot imitating modern trendy speech from that world.
> But to me ear this a bot imitating modern trendy speech from that world.
Unless they've had some reinforcement learning, I'm pretty sure thats all LLMs ever really do.
Even with reinforcement learning, you can still find phrases and patterns that are repeated in the smaller models. It's likely true with the larger ones, too, except the corpus is so large that you'll have fat luck to pick out which specific bits.
what?
what do you mean? are you claiming its hard to recognize the features of speech of large models? its really not. There are famous wikipedia articles about it. Heck an em dash, a single character is often a pretty good clue
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It's also imitating the speaker (critic, artist or most likely a gallerist) unwaveringly praising everything about the "choices" it made, even though it clearly made a worse thing in the end.
Indeed, I have a really dry and information dense way of speaking when working and it very quickly copies that. I can come across as abrupt and rude in text, which is pretty funny to have mirrored to you. This Claude guy is an asshole!
(I am very friendly and personable in real life, but work text has different requirements)
I barely read the conversation in the article, only some comments the chatbot made about its work. By "the speaker" I clumsily referred to a generic art-speaker outside of this specific conversation.
But yeah, as it fundamentally doesn't separate your input from its output, it will take on the style you use.
I think you mean “post-modern” or “contemporary” - modern art is a period of art that came to an end around the 1970s
I see this mistake all the time.
I think people who have the opportunity should visit the MoMA to see the wide variety of art there.
I'm sure a lot would consider van gogh or Klimt to be "traditional" art when they're very much modern artists.
The OP is using 'modern art' as a derogatory term; I doubt very much they care about accuracy. I doubt a trip to MoMA would be enlightening. It's just a hand wave across 'all those things about art I don't understand are bad'.
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