Comment by high_na_euv

10 days ago

So what?

Why gamers must be the most important group?

Gamers are important because they are consistent customers. Crypto buying of GPUs is done (anyone still in this area is buying ASICs). Meanwhile gamers are still buying GPUs - they do sometimes hold off when the economy doesn't allow, but you can trust that gamers will continue to buy GPUs to play their games and thus they are a safe investment. It is rational to sell CPUs to a gamer for much less than someone in crypto because the gamer will be back (even if the gamer "grows up" there are more replacing them). Thus gamer is an important group while crypto is not.

The above was their prediction during the crypto boom and it turns out correct. I'm not sure how AI will turn out, but it isn't unreasonable to predict that AI will also move to dedicated chips (or die?) in a few years thus making gamers more important because gamers will be buying GPUs when this fad is over. Though of course if AI turns out to be a constant demand for more/better GPUs long term they are more important.

Gamers are not the only important GPU market. CAD comes to mind as another group that is a consistent demand for GPUs over the years. I know there are others, they are all important.

  • the "value" of nvidia to the "AI" companies is their tsmc fab contract

    they don't need CUDA, they don't need the 10 years of weird game support, even the networking tech

    they need none of nvidia's technology moats

    exactly same as the crypto, where they just needed to make an ASIC to pump out sha1 as quickly as possible

    which is really, really easy if you have a fab contract

    at which point their use of nvidia dropped to zero

I’d rather prefer that the average Joe has a good entertainment system than our corporate overlords has a good surveillance system.

  • The growth curve of technology has always pointed at the world becoming tiny and non-private.

    • Disagree.

      Mass surveillance by corporations can be outlawed. Just because something is possible, doesn’t mean it must be necessarily so.

      I travel a lot for work to different nations. The cultural differences are stark.

      In the UK for example, they love their CCTVs. In Switzerland, they’re only allowed where they are deemed necessary.

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