Comment by runarberg

9 days ago

Seems very unlikely. My parent said the effects have already started (but provided no evidence), so I assume you mean by less then a generation. I am not a linguist but I would like to see evidence of such rapid shifts ever occurring in anywhere the history of languages before I believe either of you.

I have a feeling you only have a feeling, but not any credible mechanism in which such language shifts can occur.

I am a little confused. Every year language changes. Young people, tech, adapting ideologies, words and concepts adopted from other languages, the list of language catalysts is long and pervasive.

Language has never stood still.

  • GPs original claim was “[Machine Intelligence] already is influencing the grammar and patterns we use.”

    Your claim above was “AI will accelerate “natural” change in language like anything else.”

    Now these are different claims, but I assumed you were backing up your parent’s claim. These are far stronger claims than what you write now, in a way that it feels like you are arguing in Motte and Bailey.

    First of all if GP claim is true, linguists should be able to find evidence of that and publish their findings in a peer review papers. To my knowledge, they have not done that.

    Second of all, your claim about AI “accelerating” changes in natural language is also unfounded, unless you really mean “like everything else”, in which case your claim is extremely weak to the point where it is a non-claim (meaning, you are not even wrong[1]).

    1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong

    • > These are far stronger claims than what you write now

      > unless you really mean “like everything else”, in which case your claim is extremely weak

      Language responds to changes in context. Books, the printing press, radio, the web, social media, mobile web, all changed how people used language and impacted language.

      AI is a dramatic new context, with unique properties:

      1. It is the first artifact to actively participate in realtime natural language communication. In a striking break with those predecessors.

      2. AI language capabilities evolve quickly, and are unlikely to stop soon.

      3. As learning during inference becomes prevalent, we will be co-adapting communication with AI in realtime.

      4. Model to model communication is in its infancy, but is an entirely new category of language use, by entirely new users.

      No preceding change to language context or purpose comes close.

      Holding out for studies is reasonable, to determine the level of change. But statements of "not even wrong" make no sense. The default is changes in communication context and purpose, drive changes in language.

      Language has never been static or unresponsive to new contexts.

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