Comment by scotty79
9 days ago
It is. They gathered it. They stored it. They served it. That's how data should work and eventually will.
9 days ago
It is. They gathered it. They stored it. They served it. That's how data should work and eventually will.
Genuine question on your perspective , I found and serve a picture of you and your wife having a meal that you once posted on myspace.
Does that make it my data? If not why? What makes these 1s and 0s uniquely yours?
When you posted the picture to myspace under the terms of their user agreement you granted them unlimited rights to redistribute that image to anyone in the world.
If you care about privacy don't post private stuff online.
Yup. That's your data now. And also mine (if I have a backup) and also myspace's.
The fact that makes it your data is that you physically can share it with someone else.
At least that's the value system I live by and I believe should be in place for all because it perfectly reflects the reality of what happens with ones and zeroes.
I'd say that it'd be your data but you might not be the copyright holder. But if the data is on a storage media that you own, I would consider it your data.
That's a very weird definition of "your data" that goes against e.g. the GDPR definition, etc.
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Where did you find that picture? If the person printed it out and plastered it on a nearby signpost for everyone to see, I'd say it is no longer personal data.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_selfie_copyright_disput...
Tangential but, if a nonhuman takes the photo, that makes it public domain, right? (In this case a monkey, or maybe in the case of a robot?)
Or is it different if there's a human in the photo?
I'm not sure why you're being downvoted when You're just describing typical Internet behavior. How many archive or search engines have come and gone that have scraped, saved, and served data from other sources (verbatim no less) with little to no scrutiny?
Why should there be any scrutiny if
> That's how data should work and eventually will.
Who created the data?
I don't know. Should I care? Can you provably tell it from the data? Why authorship should have any bearing on what happens with it later?
You argued that gathering of data signals ownership of it. But I don’t know that reasonable people would agree that that’s about framing.
If you’re going to argue data ownership at all, it seems to me the creator of the data is the owner, unless transfer ownership to another person or to the public domain.
On the other hand, I can understand a stand that data can never be “owned”, but I don’t think you are saying that.
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If I shouldn’t care who made it, why should I care who stole it?
If I’m not giving money to the creators, why should I give any to the thieves?
Either pirate for free, or pay the creators.
I created the data on my computer when I downloaded a copy of it from the web
what is this, data communism?
Rather the reverse, if you separate an instance from the type.
I mean yeah, since its the privatization of data but I think the spirit is that data itself doesn't belong to anyone but rather what you can hold is yours? I don't know, it was a tongue in cheek comment and now I'm actually thinking about it.
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