Comment by CuriouslyC

3 days ago

Imagine if video service came with a free TV that watched you, and was really opinionated about what you watch, and you could only watch your videos on the creeper TV.

Then I would not use it because it does not work the way I want it to work...

But if that is the service they are making and they are clear about what it is when you sign up... That does not make it illegal.

I can see why people think they should be entitled to do this, but it does not align with how they are selling the service or how many other companies sell services. In most situations you don't get unlimited access to the individual components of how a service works (the API), you are expected to use the service (in this case Claude Code) directly.

  • > That does not make it illegal.

    "Both parties are okay with the terms" is far from being sufficient to make something "legal".

    Tie-in sales between software and services is not different from price dumping. If any of the Big Tech corporations were from any country that is not the US, the FTC would be doing anything in their power to stop them.

    • > Tie-in sales between software and services is not different from price dumping.

      I disagree, in many cases what you are specifically paying for is the combination of the software and the service that are designed to work together. And in many cases do not work independent of eachother.

      There are countless cases of this, that what you are paying for is a thing that is made up of a piece of software and a serverside component. MMO's (and gaming in general) being a major example of this, but so are many of the apps I pay for subscriptions for on my phone.

      The actual technical implementation of how it works is irrelevant when it is clear what it is you are paying for.

      > "Both parties are okay with the terms" is far from being sufficient to make something "legal".

      True but the opposite is also true, just because you don't like the terms it does not make it illegal.

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    • > Tie-in sales between software and services

      Look at it this way: the service that you're accessing is really a (primarily desired) side-effect of the software. So re subscriptions, what they're actually providing are the apps (web, desktop, etc), and the apps use their service to aid the fulfillment of their functionality. Those wanting direct access to the internal service can get an API key for that purpose. That's just how their product offering is structured.

I can’t was Netflix on Amazon’s streaming app or the other way around? So yeah, its the same

Anthropic isn’t handing out free PCs or forcing people to use them.

I think you just described American cable boxes... Except they charge us a monthly fee and an additional monthly fee for the box.

Or any smart tv with free ip tv.

Is that not most if not all smart TVs today? Basically nearly every TV made and sold right now?