Comment by throwaway140126

3 days ago

In Germany there are some examples for the suppression of speech. For example popular examples are: (1) getting your house raided for calling a politician a dick (2) getting your house raided for calling a politician stupid (3) most recent, just in this week, a retiree gets into trouble with the police for asking worried questions about migration

(1) https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/hamburg-wohnungsdurch... (2) https://www.justiz.bayern.de/media/images/behoerden-und-geri... (3) https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article6996cb47fc148...

These are examples that spontaneously come to my mind. So I can not talk for whatever country you live in but Germany has a problem about being able to express opinions.

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hananova  3 days ago

(1) Is also because it's literally vandalism. (2) Also points out that there were posts of holocaust denial, which has been illegal in most of europe for literal decades. (3) Is an article about an investigation into whether or not the cart was protected by freedom of expression or whether there would be grounds for further trial. Nobody is in trouble yet.

Isn't it convenient how all posts that say something that rhymes with "You can get in trouble in EU country X for just doing Y." The "just" is doing a lot of concealed lifting? None of your three links actually support your assertion.

  • throwaway140126  3 days ago

    (1) Calling a politician a dick is vandalism? That's nonsense.

    (2) The corresponding prosecutor made clear that his house was raided for calling the politician stupid and NOT for anything else. You would have known that if you would have read the document I linked to. To quote it:

      Wegen des Tatverdachts einer gegen Personen des politischen Lebens gerichteten
  Beleidigung gem. §§ 185, 188, 194 StGB erfolgte am vergangenen Dienstag, 12.11.2024, eine
  richterlich angeordnete Durchsuchung der Wohnung des Beschuldigten durch Polizeibeamte
  der Kriminalpolizei Schweinfurt

    Translated to english:

      Due to suspicion of an offence of insulting persons in political life
  pursuant to Sections 185, 188, 194 of the German Criminal Code (StGB), a
  judicially ordered search of the accused's apartment was carried out last Tuesday, November 12, 2024, by police officers
  from the Schweinfurt Criminal Investigation Department.

    (3) He is in trouble in terms that there is an police investigation against him and no it is not okay to have police investigations just because a person expressed his worries about migration.

    So, yes my links support my assertion.

    • j-krieger  3 days ago

      People will lie in your face about number two even though both the Amtsgericht Bamberg as well as the press have been saying that the arrest was made in a case of 188 StgB for months now.

    • Etherlord87  3 days ago

      (1) - there's a photo of a graffiti in the article. But the translation of the article to English doesn't mention the insult was actually painted on a wall...

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    • amarant  3 days ago

      First article, second paragraph states that the search was ruled illegal.

      The one who got in trouble was ultimately the dick, not the one who called him that....

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  • j-krieger  3 days ago

    > Also points out that there were posts of holocaust denial, which has been illegal in most of europe for literal decades.

    The arrest wasn't made for this but for the insulting of a politican. Stop lying. The press has been correcting this case for months.