Comment by BoredPositron

1 day ago

Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.

“How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked.

“Two ways,” Mike said. “Gradually and then suddenly.”

Hemingway - The Sun Also Rises

We truly don't need boots on the ground though.

The NATO campaign in Libya was similar with no American boots on the ground, with the Gulf and Turkiye largely stepping in. And unlike Libya, we don't have US citizens in a consulate in Iran.

"You break it, you buy it" doesn't hold in 2026 anymore.

  • Libya has a 10x lower population density than Iran, among other disparities. I'd be careful leaping to comparisons before anything has happened, considering how benign the Twelve Day War ended up being.

    "Hands off the nuke or we kill you" is a great populist policy on paper, but difficult to implement in reality. Especially if your air campaign fails, necessitating a suicidal ground invasion.

    • > Libya has a 10x lower population density than Iran, among other disparities

      Libya's population was overwhelmingly concentrated in a handful of regions in the same manner as Iran.

      Furthermore, Iran no longer has functional AD systems and the initial strikes were limited to nuclear sites and a handful of strategic site.

      This time strikes are planned to be more generalized

      > "Hands off the nuke or we kill you" is a great populist policy on paper, but difficult to implement in reality. Especially if your air campaign fails, necessitating a suicidal ground invasion

      We can keep striking Iran indefinetly.

      A nuclear program requires an industrial base, and with what is current being proposed, a scorched earth approach of targeting Iranian industrial [0], security [0], and leadership capacity [1] is being planned.

      You truly do not need boots on the ground if you do not care about maintaining a functional country at the end of such strikes.

      That is the approach the US is adopting now. For all this talk of "regime change", the answer is we don't care what happens after.

      This is why I called out Libya - it was an industrialized country with an active nuclear and ballistics missile program with the capacity to harm much of Europe. The months of NATO strikes degraded their industrial capacity and the country collapsed into civil war, but it was no longer a major headache for Europe in the same manner that it was under Gaddafi.

      Iran collapsing into a Libya or even Syrian style civil war is a good outcome for the US. It sucks for the region (and hence why the Gulf and Turkiye has been lobbying against it) but it is good enough for us in the USA.

      [0] - https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-military-prepar...

      [1] - https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-strikes-iran-co...

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