Comment by cyberax

1 day ago

An analog fallback is a good idea, to be sure your house doesn't freeze when you're away.

> EDIT: Digging around a little more it seems that Mitsubishi H2i minisplit systems don't speak zwave or zigbee, neither does Haier Arctic

There are no mini-splits in the US that speak anything remotely standard. If you want to go with ducted systems, TRANE and others have smart AC units that use "communicating thermostats". The protocol is based on Envirocom system and it's pretty basic.

Good news is that you can still control them by shorting the wires with a traditional thermostat, so you still can have an analog backup in case the regular digital thermostat fails.

The Honeywell thing I bought on amazon turned out to not be analog after all. It's got an Atmel Atmega something or other in it. It obviously can't connect to the internet through its 24VAC 3 wire interface but it's running software I can't inspect and therefore assume to be completely riddled with bugs. It's going back to be replaced with Whites-Rodgers Emerson unit.

  • Yet, it's common. They typically are drop-in replacements for classic mercury switch thermostats. Mercury is not available anymore (for a good reason), and gallium alloys wet almost everything.

    Bare bi-metallic strips don't work as well because contacts tend to get oxidized and/or stuck. They are also a pain to calibrate.

    A small microcontroller with a relay tends to be more reliable.

    • > A small microcontroller with a relay tends to be more reliable.

      Until some bug surfaces that requires a reboot to -fix- work around, but since the device is powered by a battery (EDIT: still puzzling through what might happen when this battery runs out..) which isn't user serviceable and has no reset switch... The device I tore down this morning fits that description. I'll take my chances with a bit of calibration and some yearly maintenance. My vehicles all have grease points and maintenance schedules, I can handle also greasing my thermostat contacts ;)

      That said, the regulators taking away the mercury switch isn't an excuse for the user hostility. They could have made a device that is less sketchy. Even if they actually did a great job and it's in fact much safer and more reliable than the analog device (in which case they should show data), I know I can open up the analog one and make it work. I can figure out how to keep it working. I can look at it and evaluate whether I trust it. I cannot do that with some proprietary blob on an MCU.