Comment by embedding-shape
1 day ago
> as in they deliberately create errors in code that then you have to spend time debugging and fixing
No, all the models are designed to be "helpful", but different companies see that as different things.
If you're seeing the model deliberately creating errors so you have something to fix, then that sounds like something is fundamentally wrong in your prompt.
Besides that, I'm guessing "repeat solving it until it is correct" is a concise version of your actual prompt, or is that verbatim what you prompt the model? If so, you need to give it more details to actually be able to execute something like that.
> then that sounds like something is fundamentally wrong in your prompt.
I am holding it wrong?
Some things take a bit of skill to use, yes. Like not everyone can play music with a guitar, you need to train a bit before it sounds OK.
> If you're seeing the model deliberately creating errors so you have something to fix, then that sounds like something is fundamentally wrong in your prompt.
No, all these models are just bad for anything that they weren't RLed for, and decent for things they were. Decent, because people who evaluate them aren't experts.
> No, all these models are just bad for anything that they weren't RLed for, and decent for things they were
Are you claiming that the models are RLed to intentionally adding errors to our programs when you use them, or what's the argument you're trying to make here? Otherwise I don't see how it's relevant to how I said.
No, I am making the argument that models have poor capabilities outside of tasks they are RLed for, and their capabilities inside those tasks are only as good as capabilities of people evaluating their responses, i.e. not great. Even if you instruct the model "don't do X" or "do X this way"—you cannot rely on the model following that instruction. This means that there is nothing you can do if model makes "errors."
Not necessarily relevant, but fun, I had the ChatGPT model correct itself mid-response when checking my math work. It started by saying that I was wrong, then it proceeded to solve the problem and at the end it realized that I was correct.
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