Comment by llm_nerd

20 hours ago

>That must be unacceptable to any sovereign government

The US recently doubled down on using US corporations as vehicles of coercion, sanctioning ICC judges for judging against Israel.

https://www.state.gov/icc-sanctions

This is beyond insane, and every American company causing grief for the staff of a criminal court in which every single civilized nation but the US and Israel (I guess I didn't have to add that but) belongs needs to see enormous fines, and to be marginalized and removed. Microsoft, Google, Visa, Mastercard, Paypal...either they can domesticate in another nation, or get relegated to provincial US operations.

It is absolutely untenable, and every single nation needs to purge all American operations as rapidly as possible.

And...it's happening. This criminal US administration filled with pedophiles and self-dealing garbage overextended. They overplayed their hand, and the result is not only the rapidly accelerated decline of the American empire, it invariably has redoubled China's influence.

I keep seeing prophesying about China invading Taiwan on here. Surely HN knows that won't be necessary, right? Taiwan recently re-engaged in diplomatic unification talks with China (not overtly, but the feelers are obvious to anyone with any sense of the moment), and they're going to make that choice themselves. Now that the US is relegated to worldwide joke/idiocracy, and it really is rapidly becoming a unipolar world, it's really the only rational choice.

But I guess the US has the pathetic joke of the Board of Peace, or their close allies El Salvador and new puppet state Venezuela. What a disgrace.

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bytehowl  19 hours ago

>Taiwan recently re-engaged in diplomatic unification talks with China

That's news to me, got any good articles on the topic?

tick_tock_tick  14 hours ago

Why shouldn't the USA sanction a clear overstep of authority? Neither the USA or Israel are part of the ICC.

  • llm_nerd  14 hours ago

    Overstep?

    ICC members make judgements that are abided by ICC member states. They have every authority to make those judgments, and it does not matter what the busted idiocracy US of A, acting as a pathetic supplicant state for their boss Israel, thinks about it.

    Maybe Trump can complain to his unbelievably pathetic Board of Peace. Christ.

    The war criminal Netanyahu can stick to the rogue shitholes he is welcomed at. The US -- which btw is currently engaged in BLATANTLY criminal activities in a number of venues -- can get fucked. The US has *ZERO* authority to tell members of the ICC who or what they can declare a warcrime, or who members of the ICC will hold to account if they enter their country.

    What a bizarre take.

    And yes, the US can sanction whoever they want, but such actions are far from free.. When every American firm is sent packing, enjoy the results. And yes, American payment processors are discovering in super-rapid quicktime how this rogue cabal of war criminal, paedos and criminal grifters are destroying their future.

    • kyboren  13 hours ago

      ICC claims[0] that since:

        - The Palestinian Authority claims to represent 'Palestine'
  - UNGA Resolution 67/19 "Reaffirms the right of the Palestinian people to self-
    determination and to independence in their State of Palestine on the Palestinian
    territory occupied since 1967"
  - They consider Gaza "Palestinian territory occupied since 1967" (despite the fact
    that Gaza has certainly not been occupied by Israel for decades and a completely
    separate entity from the PA exercises sovereignty there)

      Therefore 'Palestine' is a State Party properly represented by the PA and covered by its accession to the Rome Statute, and thus the ICC totally have jurisdiction over Gaza and non-party state Israel's actions there.

      Beyond the absurd sophistry and incoherent reasoning, Israel is--once again--not a signatory to the ICC. Asserting jurisdiction over a sovereign entity without their consent is a violation of state immunity[1], a legal concept predating the ICC by over 600 years.

      I'd say that qualifies as an overstep.

      [0]: https://www.icc-cpi.int/sites/default/files/itemsDocuments/p... [1]: https://opil.ouplaw.com/display/10.1093/law:epil/97801992316...

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    • tick_tock_tick  11 hours ago

      > And yes, the US can sanction whoever they want, but such actions are far from free..

      Honestly the biggest problem that's coming out of all of this is the US is finding out most of its actions actually are free... Like everyone know the US was "stronger" and better positioned than Europe 10 years ago but it's just gotten ridiculously skewed.

      With Europe losing basically all ability to push back against the US because of their poor decision making we've lost a critical moderating influence on the USA.

wiseowise  19 hours ago

> But I guess the US has the pathetic joke of the Board of Peace, or their close allies El Salvador and new puppet state Venezuela. What a disgrace.

You forgot Trumps best butt-buddy: Putin.