Comment by Analemma_

1 day ago

As people have repeatedly mentioned, if the War Department was unhappy with Anthropic's terms, they could have refused to sign the contract. But they didn't: they were fine with it for over a year. And if they changed their mind, they could've ended the contract and both sides could've walked away. Anthropic said that would've been fine. But that's not what happened either: they threatened Anthropic with both SCR designation and a DPA takeover if Anthropic didn't agree to unilateral renegotiation of terms that the War Department had already agreed were fine.

It's absurd, and doubly so if OAI's deal includes the same or even similar redlines to what Anthropic had.

it seems like oai deal does include the same red lines, plus some more, and the ability for oai to deploy safety systems to limit the use cases of the model via technical means

this seems strictly better than what anthropic had. anthropic has ruined their relationship with the US govt, giving oai a good negotiating hand

the oai folks are good at making deals, just look at all the complex funding arrangements they have

  • "OAI wins by playing the government's game" is such a catastrophically bad take.

    > anthropic has ruined their relationship with the US govt, giving oai a good negotiating hand

    You want to try defending this ridiculous statement a bit more thoroughly?

    For a start, the designation by the government of a company as a supply chain risk is not a negotiating tool. It may well be found to be arbitrary and capricious once the courts look at it. Business have rights too.

    For another, why do you think OAI was able to make what looks like the same deal? Anthropic was willing to say yes to anything lawful up to their red lines, and it was still a no. Why turn around and give OAI exactly the same thing, unless it's not really what it looks like?

    And Altman is always looking for the next buck.

    All these supposedly impressive complex funding arrangements have OAI on the hook to firms like Oracle in the hundreds of billions of dollars. No indication at all how this unprofitable business will become a trillion dollar juggernaut.

    • you're right, supply chain risk is not a negotiating tool. it's spite after talks have ended. it indicates a ruined relationship

      the oai deal is similar, but it includes technical safeguards. I think anthropic would have wanted the oai deal

      the deal was not only successful because the govt is rebounding. the miltary prefers boundaries to be technical, not contractual

      they can try using it, and trust that it will only operate within its designed limits, where the output is reliable

      technical barriers to misuse help prevent both accidental and bad-faith misuse. a contract allows both kinds of misuse, enforced only by lawsuits. filing in court to dispute the terms is not always allowed

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