Comment by kome

21 hours ago

shameful for the west, and a tragedy. leave iran alone. defending the mullahs wasn't exactly on my bingo card, but here we are...

please, can somebody in the US or Israel have an "are we the baddies" epiphany?

There's no way you can defend the Iranian leadership. Toppling them is not shameful, just like ousting Saddam Hussein was IMO reasonable. The problem is what happens afterwards.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/i...

> defending the mullahs wasn't exactly on my bingo card, but here we are...

Propaganda is a hell of a drug.

  • And you think the US, now currently sliding into authoritarianism itself, will install an enlightened democracy upon the Iranians?

    This is WW3 in slow motion. The goal is to takeover Eurasia and contain the Russian-Chinese alliance by eating away at the edges and removing all unaligned or hostile energy sources.

    • Remember how much toppling Sadam Hussein, killing a million Iraqis, rounding up and torturing thousands of random Iraqi civilians, destroying most of the country's vital infrastructure, and selling their oilfields to American companies at bargain prices helped Iraqis? It's going to be the same for Iran. There's going to be massive suffering.

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  • So how do the recurring airstrikes help the protesters?

  • > 30,000 in 2 days - half the 2-year death toll of Gaza ; With no artillery , air-strikes or heavy weapons, without million-man armies facing off in pitched battles, without health system collapsing with 100s of thousands of injuries in 48 hours, photos or satellite imagery of mass graves and bodies littering the streets

    Propaganda is a hell of a drug.

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  • Hacker news needs to hear more of this. They are very out of touch with actual Iranian people who are cheering this on.

    • Hacker News has only ever existed in a post-Shah world. The state of Iran today can be traced directly back to US intervention.

  • Ask your colleague if his family is still there... May be not.

    or ask another colleague whose family is still there. Would be different answer.

    • I can vouch for people still there. I’m a Brit who married an Iranian who still has a large family in Iran. With the exception of one religious aunt who is married to a military man, all the Iranian family and friends we know have been hoping for intervention. We've had emotional messages from my wife’s cousin (a new mum) describing looking out of her apartment every night for the past month praying for planes overhead. Take that anecdata for what it’s worth.

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    • Valid point but then again:

      1. Not everybody lives in the direct nearing of the bombing/conflict hotspot

      2. They weren’t doing that great before anyway (because, you know, the islamic totalitarian theocratic dictatorship)

      3. They haven’t been doing great at all lately (because, you know, protests and turmoil and the violent repression from the aforementioned islamic totalitarian theocratic dictatorship)

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  • Agreed. I had an Iranian colleague also reach out who was ecstatic about this news. The hacker in me is curious to see how it all unfolds, as well as to see all the curious discussion that arises on this forum.

Killing people that blind women for refusing to wear headscarf is always a good deed.

It may be infeasible to do it, or bad idea because of geopolitical or similar reasons, but no - in Iran's regime case - we are not the baddies.