Comment by yyyk

17 hours ago

Being attacked should rule out 'war of aggression', but I guess the phrase seems to have lost any meaning in modern discourse. Apparently you can spend all the time calling 'death to X' and then get shocked when others take you seriously.

You seem to have forgotten that the US attacked Iran first, which made this regime even possible in the first place.

  • > You seem to have forgotten that the US attacked Iran first, which made this regime even possible in the first place.

    Bombing of US marine barracks in Beirut in 1983 was funded, and organized by Iran. Just take half day off, and read a bit on the role of Islamic Republic in Middle East in the past 40 years. I guarantee your stance of "US attacked first" will change to the "unclear" at the least.

    • Yeah and the 1953 coup to overthrow the Iranian prime minister and install a US puppet (the Shah) was organized by the CIA. We could also add that in the 1980's the US was actively supporting Iraq in its war against Iran.

      This kind of thinking won't get you very far and won't ensure peace in the region.

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    • That is not clear at all!

      The Lebanese Muslims at the time were furious that the Sixth Fleet was constantly shelling Shouf. At the time the Phalangists, with Israeli help, had recently murdered 3500 women and children at the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps.

      There were and are plenty of grievances to go around in Lebanon.

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    • 40 years is an interesting cutoff of where to start history. Did Iran show any aggression to the USA before the Coup d'etat organized by the CIA and MI6?

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> Being attacked should rule out 'war of aggression'

It usually does. The argument here is about the proportion of the response.

  • There were tens of thousands of Iranian rockets fired at Israel just since Oct 7. Hezbollah did the majority of the launches, but there's no doubt about who sent the rockets or for what purpose. What would be a proportional response to that?