Comment by guerrilla

13 hours ago

I don't think they can accomplish their goal even with that. I will be very surprised by regime change.

Iran was likely going to do that themselves by the massive inflation they caused through reckless financial policies such as Venezuelan style price controls. Russia is managed to weather sanctions decently, Iran's economic leadership is far more incompetent despite being a petrol state. Even in Tehran they can't get enough water because of the failure of infrastructure and planning (despite plenty of money being available for certain failed regional military projects).

There was a study showing almost every revolution happened not because of ideology but over the price of bread.

  • > There was a study showing almost every revolution happened not because of ideology but over the price of bread.

    His name was Marx. ;)

    Yeah. We'll see. Under what conditions will you consider yourself right or wrong? My prediction is after killing a few more heads of state, disabling some more striking capability that they'll back off under pressure from the Arab states. Trump will declare it as a victory regardless of what happens and everyone will forget about it. Iran will eventually rebuild itself as it just did, but this time it will take longer (Trump even said that himself, contradicting himself earlier).

    • Even if Trump doesn't care, Israel is very motivated to make regime change happen. They want to be permanently rid of Iran's nuclear threat, its funding of terrorist groups, all of it. Honestly I think Trump or at least his administration is on a similar page, and if not the Israelis can clearly be pretty persuasive.

      No, my worry is whether it will be a regime change that benefits the Iranian people or some kind of sick puppet state. But of course:

      > Trump will declare it as a victory regardless of what happens

      ...This goes without saying.

      Edit: worth noting the Arab states tend to hate Iran as well, and Iran has already sprinkled some ballistic missiles on them just in this war. They're not going to speak up for Iran unless they think the escalation is getting too dangerous for themselves.