Comment by cls59

9 hours ago

If I understand the article correctly, that second proof was published as a rider on a first proof that was entirely Dedekind's. So, there was definitely a credit owed at time of publishing.

I came away with the impression that the biggest villain in this story was Kronecker. Without the need to tiptoe around his ego and gatekeeping, these results may have been published as a paper with joint authorship.

I read it the other way. Here's the quote from the article:

On December 7, 1873, he wrote to Dedekind that he thought he’d finally succeeded: “But if I should be deceiving myself, I should certainly find no more indulgent judge than you.” He laid out his proof. But it was unwieldy, convoluted. Dedekind replied with a way to simplify Cantor’s proof, building a clearer argument without losing any rigor or accuracy. Meanwhile Cantor, before he’d received Dedekind’s letter, sent him a similar idea for how to streamline the proof, though he hadn’t worked out the details the way Dedekind had.

  • I think the relevant quotes are these:

    "Dedekind quickly replied that...he’d worked out a proof that the algebraic numbers (the numbers you get as solutions to algebra problems) could be counted.

    [...]

    Weierstrass had been most excited about the proof that algebraic numbers are countable. (He would later use that result to prove a theorem of his own.) So Cantor chose a misleading title [for his paper] that only mentioned algebraic numbers.

    [...]

    Writing his paper, Cantor put the proof about algebraic numbers first. Below it, he added his own proof that the real numbers cannot be counted — Dedekind’s simplified version of it, that is."

    So the first proof -- the one the article was titled after -- was completely created by Dedekind.

    • > he’d worked out a proof that the algebraic numbers (the numbers you get as solutions to algebra problems) could be counted

      I can't say I'm fully comfortable with that characterization of the algebraic numbers. The definition itself does suggest a proof that they are countable:

      1. The number of symbols that can appear in a well-defined algebra problem is finite. (For example, if we define algebra problems as being posed in written English, we can use an inventory of no more than 50 symbols to define them all. If we define "algebra problems" in some other way, the definition will specify how many symbols are available.)

      2. The number of possible strings describing algebra problems, created from this finite symbolic alphabet, is necessarily countable, because the strings have finite length.

      3. Each algebraic number is the solution to one of those strings, and therefore the algebraic numbers are countable.

      But I don't really feel like it's possible to learn anything about the numbers from that proof.

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