Comment by lomlobon

13 hours ago

How's the latency? I've had to keep using xterm even though it kind of sucks just because it's got the lowest latency by quite a bit.

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ivanjermakov  12 hours ago

According to this (at least 11 months old) benchmark, Ghostty has the worst input latency across all contenders: https://github.com/ghostty-org/ghostty/discussions/4837

  • esperent  4 hours ago

    I'm generally very sensitive to input latency and there's no way Ghostty has 41ms. I've only been using it for a couple of months though, so I guess it's fixed now.

    Edit: just saw your second link from 4 months and yes, it's now avg 13ms which feels about right to me. Not perfect but acceptable. So what's even the point of sharing the old benchmark?

  • TehCorwiz  9 hours ago

    I don’t type more than 100 characters a second so I’ve never ran into bits limits.

    • jstimpfle  8 hours ago

      If you're typing just one character per second you'll still feel the difference. Latency is stress inducing.

forty  12 hours ago

I have been using computers and terminal for a long time, and this kind of comment makes me think I must have missed a whole bunch of things which can be done with a terminal

kccqzy  11 hours ago

Since people are mentioning latency I’ll mention throughput. Basically the idea is that you accidentally cat a large file to your terminal and we are measuring how much time it takes for the terminal to finish displaying it. This test generally favors GPU-accelerated terminals.

Ghostty performs very well on this regard, among the same league as Alacritty and Ptyxis.

  • kazinator  9 hours ago

    Rather, what will win is a terminal that internally builds an efficient, symbolic representation of what is on the display, rather than a pixel representation with all the font glyph, and which efficiently sychronizes that symbolic representation to the graphical canvas, skipping intermediate updates when the abstract display is changing too fast.

    • kccqzy  7 hours ago

      That’s already happening I think. Newer terminals redraw at a fixed rate equal to the display refresh rate, usually 60Hz. But if there are more than 60 new characters being printed per second, some of these intermediate states are never rendered on screen.

homebrewer  10 hours ago

Have you tried kitty with more aggressive settings? It feels very responsive out of the box, but the defaults are balanced for sane energy use on portable machines.

  repaint_delay 5
  input_delay 1
  sync_to_monitor no

0sdi  12 hours ago

on my machine, noticeable. I seriously tried it, but went back because I could notice a small end-end latency, between keypress and action. But I'm also 240hz user.

  • kazinator  8 hours ago

    Where are you measuring the keypress from? The nerve signal to your finger muscles?> Or the time the keycap hits bottom? What if the switch closes before the cap hits bottom: then we are getting a latency figure that looks better than it really is.

    • jstimpfle  8 hours ago

      I've had a keyboard like that and with it, xterm (and nothing else) felt like it was displaying the characters even slightly before I had pressed them. It was a weird sensation (but good)

    • 0sdi  7 hours ago

      Nerve signals yes. I just try them side by side, usually running vim on both terminals and measuring how it feels. If you can feel difference, the latency is bad.