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Comment by pjmlp

9 hours ago

As ex-Nokia, I can tell quite a few stories about the rampdown in Germany, of factories and R&D sites, merge with Siemens and what not.

For those that care, search the news for strikes or layoffs, around the time iOS/Android were taking off.

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joe_mamba  8 hours ago

>As ex-Nokia, I can tell quite a few stories about the rampdown in Germany, of factories and R&D sites, merge with Siemens and what not.

Well please go on, spill the tea, don't leave us hanging. This would be very interesting to hear.

>For those that care, search the news for strikes or layoffs, around the time iOS/Android were taking off.

Well, according to my google-fu, the factory closures from Finland and germany were relocated to Hungary and Romania, so still EU, therefore the EU could have maintained a domestic phone manufacturing sector in its lowest cost countries as well, if they had kept those fabs and not close them down as well to move everything to china.

Everything about this screams of corporate greed and mismanagement on Nokia's part, way before Microsoft entered the picture.

dddw  9 hours ago

Another good reason to dislike M$

  • pjmlp  8 hours ago

    I dislike the board that brought Elop in, and promised him a bonus if he managed to sell Nokia Mobiles business unit, and they were also the ones that decided to off-shore factories and R&D into Eastern Europe and India.

    • mytailorisrich  7 hours ago

      Unfortunately Nokia was doomed because it was too slow and bureaucratic and could not adapt to the iPhone... Contrast with Samsung that managed to quickly churn out iphone "clones" and to iterate quickly.

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  • joe_mamba  9 hours ago

    What does MS have to do with this? The Nokia factory shuffling and strikes GP was mentioning happened before MS took over.

    And people love to blame MS but Nokia was a sinking ship already by that point. MS was just a new captain added to steer the Titanic but the same fate was inevitable, as its home grown MeeGo/Maemo platform arrived too late and to too little adoption to stand a chance against the already established iOS and Android platforms who were throwing infinity money on becoming the undisputed mobile duopoly platforms, selling 10x as many devices as Nokia was selling Maemo N900s. It was already over for Nokia by that point same as it was for Blackberry. Nokia's own engineers admitted this the moment they got to play with the first iPhone at their Espoo HQ.

    That's like blaming a drunk driver for hitting a guy that previously shot himself in the head.

    Nothing MS could have done would have changed that fate for the better. WHat did people expect MS to have done?