Comment by Markoff

8 hours ago

huge notch and huge bottom bezel with mediocre Mediatek Dimensity 7100, all this for 650EUR with specs worse than 200EUR phones, that's like 450EUR for software, a bit high surcharge...

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mariusor  3 hours ago

It's always surprising to see this type of comments on HN. Jolla is not Apple, they barely scrunged 10K orders for this phone, they can't afford the economy of scale that other mainstream vendors can.

mrweasel  7 hours ago

The notch is a bit silly, given that you have the bezel at the bottom, but I guess it could be ergonomics.

I believe the phone is designed around feedback for customers/potential customers. Which tells me that other people have very different phone usage from my own. I would have asked for a much smaller phone and a €200 price tag. The processor and even a shitty camera doesn't really bother me. I just want a cheap phone that can run like five apps (sadly one is the type that won't work, i.e. payments), and not run Android or iOS.

joe_mamba  8 hours ago

It's what you get when you have no phone manufacturing supply chains anymore because you shipped them all to China 20+ years ago then lost the OS wars to Apple and Google leaving you with no local phone industry. Then it's gonna cost you through the nose when you're making, what are now to your industry, niche low volume items.

Remember when you could buy EU made Nokias, Siemens and Ericssons? Even the chargers were made in Finland back then.

  • pjmlp  8 hours ago

    As ex-Nokia, I can tell quite a few stories about the rampdown in Germany, of factories and R&D sites, merge with Siemens and what not.

    For those that care, search the news for strikes or layoffs, around the time iOS/Android were taking off.

    • joe_mamba  6 hours ago

      >As ex-Nokia, I can tell quite a few stories about the rampdown in Germany, of factories and R&D sites, merge with Siemens and what not.

      Well please go on, spill the tea, don't leave us hanging. This would be very interesting to hear.

      >For those that care, search the news for strikes or layoffs, around the time iOS/Android were taking off.

      Well, according to my google-fu, the factory closures from Finland and germany were relocated to Hungary and Romania, so still EU, therefore the EU could have maintained a domestic phone manufacturing sector in its lowest cost countries as well, if they had kept those fabs and not close them down as well to move everything to china.

      Everything about this screams of corporate greed and mismanagement on Nokia's part, way before Microsoft entered the picture.

  • actionfromafar  8 hours ago

    I think of those two, the OS wars is the much more substantial EU/US difference. It's not like Apple is making much hardware in the US, yet they wade in pools of cash.

actionfromafar  8 hours ago

Can you really get 200EUR phones with that good cameras?