Comment by wolvesechoes

6 hours ago

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> First, it is not European alternative - it is Finnish. _Europe_ is not a single country.

What are you talking about?

Is there a law of nature that you can only refer to origins in terms of countries.

A Finnish alternative is, nyt extension, a European alternative.

It all starts with open formats, open data and open apis. Unless this is somehow guaranteed by law for interaction with public entities, it's going to be hard for any FOSS projects or independent apps/developers.

Without that, we have a situation where almost every bank tries to shove their stupid android app in your face so they can more easily track you. They also force you to their authentication mechanisms, instead of using already working ones. There are no APIs that are usable, only if you have $$$$$. They'll just ignore you if you're a regular client and want to download your data automatically via a reasonable mechanism, etc.

If only banks can write apps and have closed API, they will

You're correct but even more it is a Chinese platform with a Chinese cellular stack that runs linux and on top of all that the apps software is Finnish (so "European").

It is a very misleading title, indeed.

Edit: Sorry you got flagged to death. You should not post blasphemous comments ;)

  • Mediatek is a taiwanese company and the Dimensity 7100 platform includes the cellular stack.

    • Yes so the other Chinese... the point being that none of that is "European". I used "Chinese" on purpose to highlight the glaring issue with calling this "European alternative"...

  • Your Toyota made in Kentucky is Russian because it uses Siberian steel lol

    • You can disagree but at least try to make an analogy that makes a modicum of sense...

      The main issue is that "Europe" is not able to make a phone. They have the choice between American and Chinese at large (mainland and Taiwan) platforms, including cellular stacks, and then most likely manufacturing in mainland China and/or via contractors like Foxconn (also Chinese sphere as from Taiwan).

      So indeed, the "full stack" claim here is to be taken in the narrowest sense possible, i.e. the apps software on top of the Linux kernel (and still from other comments it seems they also use Android drivers).