Comment by echelon

12 hours ago

I don't get how private businesses allow these. It's as creepy as Google Glass, yet we don't see the same pushback.

Is it because younger people don't care about privacy anymore?

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OrangeMusic  8 hours ago

Why would they disallow cameras on glasses but not cameras on phones, where it's just as easy to take pictures discreetly.

Not to mention, hidden miniature cameras have existed for decades.

  • dwighttk  6 hours ago

    People using hidden miniature cameras should be shamed and punished when that is discovered just like the people using these glasses.

    • OrangeMusic  1 hour ago

      All right here's my position:

      - filming people without their consent is wrong

      - the vast majority of people are not creeps and are not discreetly filming random people

      - the vast majority of people are not interesting, and nobody is filming them

      - today, in a public space, everybody already has lots or cameras pointing to them (e.g. anyone with a phone), without a way to know if they're being filmed. So this is not a new 'problem'.

      - banning smart glasses doesn't make sense if you're not also banning all devices that can film discreetly (so, smartphones)

      - 'creeps' use hidden miniature cameras, not glasses with an obvious camera right there on their very face

  • shinycode  6 hours ago

    Discreet is not the same thing as embedded in your face with no hands involved and indiscernible from regular glasses.

NitpickLawyer  8 hours ago

> It's as creepy as Google Glass, yet we don't see the same pushback.

Didn't it come out that the pushback against google glasses was in part made by PR companies on behalf of their competition? I remember reading something along those lines.

kstrauser  4 hours ago

I’ve banned them from our office, for the same reason that I’d tell someone deliberately aiming their phone camera at the screen all day to knock it off. In an office setting, you have to treat these as industrial espionage tools, either by choice of the wearer or of a remote person controlling them.

zer0zzz  11 hours ago

The youths literally do not care from what I observe.

How many people under 25 do you interact with on a day to day basis?

  • rangerelf  1 hour ago

    On the other hand, EVERY young person in my circle (my kids and their friends) is insanely privacy aware. All of that means ... we're not part of the young people anymore?

  • pastage  8 hours ago

    There are bubbles, you are obviously in one if you do not know any privacy concerned under 25. I know 15 year olds who are extreme privacy freaks, then I care about it so it might be easier to find those people. I do find that it is the people that I think are least likely are the one who are the most extreme.

  • riffraff  8 hours ago

    I'm pretty sure they care who takes pictures or videos of them. Try going on a train and taking pictures of a young woman or man. The only difference is these are less noticeable.

  • bigyabai  11 hours ago

    Don't forget the older people, many of whom gladly use Facebook or WhatsApp without a second thought.

    Us HN weirdos are some of the last who care, and even we disagree on which tech is creepy. Hard to blame the average Joe for giving up.

  • throwaway290  10 hours ago

    I know about 20 and 2 of them are without socials and even smartphones. Its a counterculture

    HN is an echo chamber who can't imagine not using some tech. Normal people can...

RobotToaster  11 hours ago

Google glass was more a victim of it's time, normies weren't used to everyone carrying a camera everywhere back then.

  • dmschulman  6 hours ago

    Google Glass failed because they made the user look like they were wearing a high tech computer on their face ala Dragon Ball Z. It looked odd. Meta and Snap learned from this, but it had nothing to do with smartphone cameras not being part of daily life.

    The first iPhone was 2007. Google Glass came out in 2013