Comment by WJW
6 hours ago
Amazon is an extremely visible American company, hitting their assets carries a symbolic meaning even if the DoD wouldn't have anything running on that datacentre at all. Iran's trying to transmit a message of "we can destroy your stuff too", trying to impact the general US feeling of invulnerability.
I don't think it'll work, but they might as well try I guess.
> I don't think it'll work, but they might as well try I guess.
Consider this from the eyes of the people living there. Your world is peaceful one day and burning tomorrow. It doesn't have to be "burning like hell", but something came from the sky, entered your building, exploded and damaged some stuff to the extent that fire-supression triggered and damaged more things.
Even if it's not a trauma, it's a shock. Something you'll be remembering for a long time. We live in fragile bubbles, but don't know it until we experience it pop. While this might not make them "win" the war, it'll leave a mark and make the affected persons' ears perch up to understand what's happening better.
Please note, I'm not from either side. I'm a close observer because of where I live, and still believe that this should have not happened.
Especially when 90% of the population are immigrants having no emotional ties to the ground
Yeah, it'll definitely trigger "why am I here and putting up with this" response in some people, and that's a breaking point for many of them.
> trying to impact the general US feeling of invulnerability
Or, perhaps, trying to defend themselves? They are being attacked, after all.
That's why they've been hitting residential buildings and hotels as well? They assume that because their proxies (Hamas, Hezbollah) hide in civilian structures, so does the US army?
All these attempts to justify Iranian terror demonstrate just how deep Qatari influence online has been. And even Qatar is being attacked by Iran now.
Is Hezbollah hiding in the elementary school that got bombed? Perhaps that’s where the Iranian nuclear research was done?
We attacked them. Full stop. And as far as I can tell we haven’t given them any conditions for when we will stop bombing them. In what moral framework do you have to just accept another sovereign, a vastly more powerful one, invading your country without fighting back?
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I believe they have warned that any country offering support will be targeted, even before the attacks began.
So they are cowards if they do what they say, and they are cowards if they don't do anything.
What should they do? Evacuate the country and offer the land for free?
> They assume that because their proxies (Hamas, Hezbollah) hide in civilian structures, so does the US army?
> Two US Defense Department employees were wounded when an Iranian drone struck a hotel in Bahrain's capital Manama, The Washington Post reported Monday.
> All these attempts to justify Iranian terror
At the end of the day you have to understand the reality that Iran is a sovereign nation that is going to defend itself. And yes they are hitting residential buildings and hotels with US military personnel present. None of this is terrorism, this is a nation state retaliating after an attack on their nation, you have to understand this basic concept, actions have consequences.
This is not propaganda, you are just willfully ignorant. If you want to destroy Iran you have to take retaliation into account, everything else is just propaganda, what do you expect them to do instead? Just lie down and take it?
You can't use retaliation of the nation you attacked as justification of why the attack was justified, its circular logic, this is textbook propaganda you are repeating.
I genuinetely do not think Hasbara like this works anymore. The overton window on this has irrevocably shifted since 2023 and it would be a better strategy for you to live within this new reality, rather than making ludicrous claims that the middle eastern country most vehemently trying to shape western views on the region is... Qatar. It just comes across as an obvious projection, and only encourages sentiment that has a real potential to become harmful to you personally.
That is, unless posts like thos are designed to encourage that sentiment, which I sometimes suspect.
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I mean if you want to put your geopolitical blinkers on, sure...but how to beat America is old news at this point: cause casualties however you can, and wait for the US to give up.
Complain about it all you want but what are you going to do? The US is already bombing them.
Perhaps all of this goes into the big bucket labelled "war is expensive and unpredictable, maybe try diplomacy?"
Which the current administration has made a note of promptly tearing up prior agreements with everyone anyway so...whoops I guess.
It's both, this particular counter-attack is aimed at morale rather than specifically a base launching sorties against them.
Ultimately, this war ends when America loses the political will to continue, so morale is a strategic objective for them.
they have been engaging in hybrid warfare for decade+ they don't get to play victim this is the result of their continued proxy attacks
America is so unused to being attacked (counter-attacked) that this needs to be explained apparently.
Defend themselves? LOL... Keep dreaming. Maybe they are continuing being delusional they can threaten a superpower without repercussions... I suggest getting a shrink working on that...
They can make it very expensive though. And they can't negotiate, given it's the second time they are attacked during negotiations, so really, what can they do? Cause the most chaos possible around them, strain the relationships between the US and other ME countries, force the US to make a choice about which ally to protect (it will be Saudi Arabia), make the oil price go up and deplete US weapon stocks. If the force the US and Israel to put boots on the ground, they will have won.
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Not just Amazon - I guess the Oil and gas industry is now run on the cloud. They used to have big SGI machines 30 years ago... but I bet everything is on the cloud now using GPUs.
I tend to believe that they still have their own clusters. For speed and privacy reasons. You don't want to give away the location of the oil you have found.