Comment by nsbk
12 hours ago
The hardware looks amazing! Too bad they will ship with Tahoe installed. I’m not upgrading until I see in which direction the next Mac OS release goes
12 hours ago
The hardware looks amazing! Too bad they will ship with Tahoe installed. I’m not upgrading until I see in which direction the next Mac OS release goes
This. I have been a big (and loud) fan of M-series hardware from the beginning, but if Apple is going to keep making their software worse, I will find myself lingering on older generations that run Asahi Linux or going back to a traditional x86_64 laptop instead of buying into new generations.
I've upgraded to Tahoe at 26.2, zero complaints from my side. Haven't had any runaway memory leaks or similar that were reported.
Same here. I know some people are unhappy with some of the UX tweaks but honestly I don't notice much of it. The whole liquid glass thing is a bit gimmicky. Other than that, I don't see much difference. The rounded corners on windows are a bit silly. But I don't spend a lot of time fiddling with windows. Most of my windows are maximized (not full screen). I'm sure there are other issues people dislike that I just haven't noticed.
I use my laptop for development. I don't actually use most of the built in applications. My browser is Firefox, I use codex, vs code, intellij, iterm2, etc. Most of that works just fine just as it did on previous versions of the OS. I actually on purpose keep my tool chains portable as I like to have the option to switch back to Linux when I want to. I've done that a few times. I come back for the hardware, not the OS.
In my experience, if you don't like Apple's OS changes that is unfortunate but they don't seem to generally respond to a lot of the criticism. Your choices are to get further and further out of date, switch to something else, or just swallow your pride. Been there done that. Windows is a "Hell No" for me at this point. I'll take the UX, with all the pastel colors that came and went and all the other crap that got unleashed on macs over the last ten years. Definitely a case of the grass not being greener on Windows. Even with the tele tubby default desktop in XP back in the day.
I can deal with Linux (and use that on and off on one of my laptops). However, that just doesn't run that well on mac hardware. And any other hardware seems like a big downgrade to me. Both Windows and Linux are arguably a lot worse in terms of UX (or lack thereof). Linux you can tweak. And you kind of have to. But it just never adds up to consistent and delightful. Windows, well, at this point liking that is probably a form of Stockholm Syndrome. If that doesn't bother you, good for you.
So, Mac OS it is for me as everything else is worse. I've in the past deferred updates to new versions of Mac OS as well. Generally you can do that for a while but eventually it becomes annoying when things like homebrew and other development toys start assuming you run something more recent. And of course for security reasons you might just not drag your feet too long. Just my personal, pragmatic take.
Is your Spotlight usable? Mine literally will not find an app
Searching for Chat yields "Ask ChatGPT", "ChatGPT Atlas", "ChatGPT Atlas" the website, and chatgpt.com. Does not yield the actual ChatGPT.app which I have currently open lol.
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Closing Tabs in Safari till takes more than a second though. And if you hold Cmd-W to close all of them it just completely locks up and crashes. Still not fixed since the release of Safari 26.
Literally unusable
Do you have more info on those crashes (e.g. crashlogs)? I work on Safari and might be able to get that forwarded to other people.
Never had this problem, been on Tahoe since it released. My safari tabs are buttery, silken smooth.
Works fine for me. I wonder if you have some extension or script on one of the sites you use slowing down the tab closure.
That's objectively false. I use safari all day everyday and have never experience any of that stuff.
I’ve been running the macOS 26.4 beta and have none of these issues.
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This sounds like swap needing to be swapped in and then released. Check your memory usage.
I'm on an M4 Pro MacBook-- basically the fastest computer you could buy from Apple before today-- and opening/closing the tab sidebar in Safari on Tahoe takes multiple seconds, even if I have only 4-6 tabs open, and seems to drop to 5 FPS. It's comically bad.
It's so bad I switched back to Chrome. I had thought Chrome had a major battery life penalty compared to Safari on Macs, but I checked more up-to-date info and apparently that's outdated.
I moved away from mac because of the OS and couldn't be happier. The hardware may be great but non-Apple hardware is fine too, and Linux is significantly better experience than MacOS these days.
The next macOS will be touch screen centric with elements getting bigger when you're close to touching them, rumors say. That being said, I run Tahoe and it works perfectly fine to me, I am not sure what issues people have with it. Sure, some corner radii aren't exactly the same but I honestly couldn't give less of a shit as long as it runs the programs I need.
Safari routinely using 20+ Gb of memory with a handful of tabs open. Safari tabs refusing to close. Unresponsive System Settings window. Random application freezes and crashes, Apple Music not playing music. This is on a 32Gb M1 Max. My M1 Air on Sequoia doesn't experience any of these issues, even if it has half the unified memory.
Never seen any of this even once.
I never had any of those issues, but then again I don't use Safari or other Apple apps like music.
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I read a rumor about it being “touch friendly instead of touch 1st”.
Presumably touch will be fully interchangeable and equivalent with mouse clicks and trackpad gestures.
Same. Im waiting for the next macOS release. Tahoe is ugly as hell
Tahoe is just fine. Been using MacBooks since 2012 and never had an issue. UI just looks nicer now.
Exactly. My org forces me to use Tahoe. The left hand slows you down while the right the right giveth performance and taketh money.
Yeah this is a real issue with these new Macs. I would wait until macOS 27 to see the direction Apple takes.
Hopefully less `border-radius`.
What's wrong with Tahoe? I've been using it for quite a while and I haven't noticed anything odd?
Just yesterday, my colleague's mac Time Machine couldn't recover backup and they had to reinstall everything.
But I think this predates Tahoe.
Silent corruption has been a feature of Time Machine for the last 19 years. But haven't you seen the new glass effects, isn't it cool?