Comment by iamnothere
15 hours ago
Yes well some of us live in first world countries that are at risk of declining into third world status, where some states DO actually care what sites you visit and would jump at the chance to further restrict traffic.
Rather than “get over” it I think we need to fight. You seem to insist that monitoring/control is a done deal and we only need to argue about the form it takes, but this is not correct. Centralized monitoring/control can be resisted and broken through a combination of political and technical means. While you may not want this, I do. (And many others are being swayed back in my direction as they start to feel the effects of service enshittification, censorship under the guise of “fighting misinformation”, and media consolidation.)
I think you misunderstand what I mean by "centralized". I mean e.g. at your gateway/firewall/router. As in a single place for you to enforce policy on your network.
At least in the US, what happens outside of your network is mostly irrelevant (except perhaps that free, open wifi should be liable for any lack of filtering). Centralized (as in e.g. government) control is non-existent, and centralized monitoring is easily defeated if you'd like with a variety of methods (though like I said we could have laws against the monitoring).