Comment by breppp

18 hours ago

However Qatar stopped production before the straits were officially closed and their stated reason is "due to military attacks", also Russian or Chinese ships can pass

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fabian2k  18 hours ago

There is no such thing as "officially closed". The moment people start shooting there, driving a ship across becomes dangerous. This was an absolutely predictable consequence of the attacks on Iran, you didn't need to wait until several tankers were burning to know these attacks were likely to happen and the strait would become essentially too risky to pass.

  • breppp  18 hours ago

    Back then there were only two ships attacked in the straits, and one was an Iranian shadow fleet ship. I am not sure that is "closing the straits" in any shape or form

    • nottorp  17 hours ago

      So if there's an active shooter on the one alley to your workplace you should still be at work in time, right? :)

      Or let's make the analogy clearer: if your Uber driver cancels the ride because there's an active shooter on the only road between him and you, it's their fault not the shooter's?

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    • Macha  17 hours ago

      As the houthis have long demonstrated, you can screw up shipping from the coast

    • tekla  13 hours ago

      I'm guessing you watched the Hegseth interview?

      --- Hegseth: “The only thing prohibiting transit in [Hormuz] right now is Iran shooting at shipping.”

      “It is open for transit should Iran not do that” ---

      Oh really? I thought it was because Mercury was in retrograde.

      I guess if even Mr. Hegseth is admitting that transit is effectively prohibited in the Strait, he must actually be lying and part of the deep state.

dylan604  13 hours ago

Are Russian or Chinese ships actually passing? Junior just released a decree saying not one liter of oil will pass. It didn't have an asterisk allowing Russian or Chinese ships.

I also find it funny that we just decided to allow Russia to pad its coffers by temporarily lifting sanctions on sale of Russian oil. Sorry Ukraine!

int0x29  13 hours ago

The strait is now mined at least partially. Country of origin doesn't matter when there are mines in the water.

  • overfeed  12 hours ago

    We really are overdue for mines with IFF and can inert themselves temporarily for blue ships.

    • XorNot  10 hours ago

      The problem is systems like that have a failure rate.

      Self deactivating land mines exist - and sometimes fail to do this (3/100 was the rate I heard a few years ago).

      Same problem with cluster munitions: it's not how they work. It's that a bunch of the bomblets fail to work, then leave UXO around which explodes a child's hand later.