Comment by varjag

11 hours ago

(as reported by Quincy Institute, a thoroughly pro-Russian think tank)

ISW confirmed unauthorised edits were made, and fired a staffer over it. Not sure why you feel the need to comment this. Classic lowbrow dismissal

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4726248

ISW is a shill for neoconservatism (just look at their board!) and is funded by US defense contractors. They try to give the appearance of neutrality via technical jargon etc. but are anything but.

Please give me a single example backing up the claim that Quincy Institute is "a thoroughly pro-Russian think tank"

On their page "Quincy Institute’s Position on Russia-Ukraine" they say at the very beginning:

> We categorically condemn Russia’s illegal invasion of Ukraine, and support U.S. assistance for Ukraine’s self-defense.

https://quincyinst.org/2022/07/12/quincy-institutes-position...

Quincy Institute is not tied to Russia and condemns the invasion

  • You're welcome to find a piece of their writing where they unequivocally support Ukraine without ifs, buts, and NATO-didits.

    • In their own words:

      > We categorically condemn Russia’s illegal invasion of Ukraine, and support U.S. assistance for Ukraine’s self-defense.

      https://quincyinst.org/2022/07/12/quincy-institutes-position...

      Also, having nuance and historical context does not mean they are "pro-Russia". We should be celebrating institutions that challenge propaganda narratives with context not hunting down anyone that doesn't fall in line with a narrative that requires you to believe history started last year

(Ad-hominem is not a counter-example btw)

  • Nothing about GP's comment is ad-hominem; it's neutral, factual context. Unless you dispute the factual claims?

    • It's counterfactual. The think tank has nothing to do with Russia and official denounces the invasion and upholds Ukraine's territorial rights. They have simply written critically about the role NATO has played in making this conflict inevitable and the history of NATO sabotage of peace negotiations.

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And ISW is tied to Victoria Nuland.

  • Not sure why you're being downvoted, you're absolutely correct.

    https://responsiblestatecraft.org/russia-ukraine-war-isw/

    • They are being downvoted because Nuland is an utterly insignificant diplomat, but serves well as a dog whistle for people who subscribe to the belief that the Maidan revolution in Ukraine was really some Obama organized coup. This is a story peddled by the Russian government, which of course is where Yanukovych promptly fled after having protestors shot. At the same time Russia was busy staging troops and material for the actual coup they were planning.

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