Comment by c0balt

5 days ago

Maybe this is just a question of taste but I never could get along with Javas (or Kotlin's) tooling.

Primarily working in Vim/Helix works for most languages from Nix to Typescript or Rust and C, but Java just never worked quite right. It also generally felt like it had a worse story around tooling from a DX perspective, something like Golang or even npm feels a lot lighter than the molasses of JDK management and gradle et al.

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owlstuffing  5 days ago

> Maybe this is just a question of taste but I never could get along with Javas (or Kotlin's) tooling

Are you joking? IntelliJ is without a doubt the best dev tooling environment available.

  • c0balt  4 days ago

    No, I'm not. Through university (and even before) I have access to their full suite. I have tried to use PyCharm, GoLand and Idea.

    Idea was useful for Java but felt quite slow and even with vim bindings was a pain to navigate. Learning the shortcuts helped but it never got quite as fast as helix/vim for general editing (especially as my work usually is a polyglot). It might be the best for Java (compared to eclipse or bluej) but that does not mean it fits my workflow/way of work.

    PyCharm/GoLand both are "nice" but it did not feel better/more efficient than pylance/pyright)/gopls + vscode/helix. The only I still occasionally use is DataStorm as it is quite a nice SQLite/PostgreSQL client.

    edit: fixed typo from gostorm -> goland

gf000  5 days ago

Besides doing yourself a disservice of not using a proper IDE, what exactly makes Java not writeable in vim or the like? Like it's a pretty simple language with not much magic going on.