Comment by WalterBright
5 days ago
I was told by a car dealer service guy that if the touch screen went on the blink, the car would be totaled. (Since replacing it cost more than the car was worth.)
I've often thought the touch screen should be replaced by a socket that accepts an iPad, and put the auto custom software on that. Why reinvent the hardware?
> I've often thought the touch screen should be replaced by a socket that accepts an iPad,
The last thing I need is Apple spying on me when I am driving.
Do you have a car now? A phone? If you are wearing pants you are being tracked right now!
So why all this hysteria about cars tracking us if we already carrying phones with us that has been tracking us for almost 2 decades now?
I'm being a bit sarcastic but also not. I understand the sentiment of people here but also the 2 standards applied.
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My car does not have a cellular modem in it, and my phone runs GrapheneOS. I use airplane mode extensively and rotate SIMs regularly. Data brokers aren't getting any anything from me.
2005 Toyota, baby! No fucking internet connection or touch screen.
Funny that you say that because of all the big tech companies, Apple has the best track record at fighting for consumer privacy. And you certainly cannot say that for any of the car makers that currently have an EV lineup.
> Apple has the best track record
Best track record compared to Google on phones and Microsoft on PCs. Anyone can be better than that.
Apple has a terrible reputation if you don't cherrypick news. Most of their 'security' stuff is PR work. Its just that rest of competition is even worse.
Your touchscreen is already spying on you.
The principal is there though.
The power of a tablet is far more than is required for an infotainment system. Make a standard, like we used to have for radios and regulate everything to expose all the controls via a standard connection. Standard parts for replacing and sizes for fitting.
The only way we can have nice things is by regulating. I don't want proprietary tyres either.
€1500 or so for Tesla to replace the screen, cheaper in many other cars.
That’s nonsense. Tesla screen for example is $1800 Australian + GST.
Cheap? No. But not overly expensive all things considered.
How much does it cost to replace a broken physical a/c button?
Asked Claude for cutting down research time:
- the button is integrated in the A/C dashboard? Everything needs to be replaced. Part cost: 250-600€ depending on car model and brand
- some dashboards can be stupid annoying to disassemble (Claude mentions VW, BMW, ...), 2-3h work at the dealer: 240-540€
- diagnostic fee they'll charge before they touch anything: 80-150€
Total cost: 550-1300€
"...With a premium German brand and a complex dash, breaking €1,000 for what is functionally a single button is entirely realistic..."
Yes, you can save money if you go used/aftermarket and DIY, but the same applies to Tesla.
Tesla:
- 1300€ touchscreen (e.g. for my old M3 2019): https://epc.tesla.com/it-IT/catalogs/34f82bd6-90fb-417c-8a06...
- probably 45m tops disassembly and reassembly: https://service.tesla.com/docs/ModelY/ServiceManual/en-us/GU...
Lots of used parts available, since they have the same parts for 10+y now.
And if you can't find said factory button available anywhere, you can usually replace it with any cheap-ass generic button or switch.