My read is that it's all about the dollars. The court cannot force Congress to appropriate money, and so if there is no money appropriated to run VoA then the administration has no money from Congress to run it, and cannot be forced to restore it.
It’s hilarious to call VoA, which had already faded into near irrelevancy, “their biggest propaganda organ.” That title belongs to Fox News or Hollywood.
Why does this comment get voted down? Which part are people against hearing/reading about? Is it the fact that the USA is an empire, the fact that its own journalistic efforts are propaganda, the claim that VoA is the biggest propaganda organ, or something else?
It's a logically unconvincing point of view (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47424628) delivered with sarcasm. The sarcasm is something people have to ignore to post a substantive reply and it's not redeemed by making a strong point that's worthy of discussion.
It is not logically inconsistent. The "Imperial Manager"ial class mentioned in the OP is multifaceted. That is to say, there are warring factions within the ruling class who disagree on details about certain things. (other things they are fully aligned on such as stamping down on the working class)
It’s the sort of comment that does nothing to inform or convince or really say anything. If you already agree with it the you’ll like it. If you don’t then it doesn’t tell you anything. Its only purpose is to stir things up.
It's using criticisms which generally aren't even well-received in good faith conversation, stating them obtusely, and ultimately just disingenuously abusing them to support fascism which doesn't actually seek to reform but merely seeks to consolidate power.
I've long criticized the US foreign policy and the US economic empire. But with the fascists destroying every institution they can, I've become extremely conservative.
That’s a very extrinsic perspective, so let’s included the other far more powerful and consequential propaganda organs; the whole media, news, TV, movie, cultural conglomeration of the American empire. If you consume “mainstream” American news, TV, movies, etc. you are being propagandized way more powerfully than anything a Sputnik, RT, AJ, DW, BBC, etc. could ever hope to achieve.
It’s not any of these rather meaningless little foreign entities that cause the major swings in “opinion” in the America that cause people to abandoned their own supposed core beliefs by getting the new firmware updates through the telescreen. I would provide a clear example, but I also don’t want to give the impression that it’s any one party or ideology, the majority of people get their firmware updates beamed into their heads through the telescreen. That is what is actually filing the void of people’s minds, not the crumbs from RT or even the slightly bigger crumbs of the BBC, it’s the approved, authorized mainstream information streams emanating from the telescreen that update people’s whatToThink; be it who to vote for or who to bomb.
My takeaway was that VoA can be shutdown, it just needs to be done so according to the law.
My read is that it's all about the dollars. The court cannot force Congress to appropriate money, and so if there is no money appropriated to run VoA then the administration has no money from Congress to run it, and cannot be forced to restore it.
It’s hilarious to call VoA, which had already faded into near irrelevancy, “their biggest propaganda organ.” That title belongs to Fox News or Hollywood.
VoA is for an international audience whilst Fox News, CNN & co are for the American public. Hollywood is mixed.
Why does this comment get voted down? Which part are people against hearing/reading about? Is it the fact that the USA is an empire, the fact that its own journalistic efforts are propaganda, the claim that VoA is the biggest propaganda organ, or something else?
It's a logically unconvincing point of view (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47424628) delivered with sarcasm. The sarcasm is something people have to ignore to post a substantive reply and it's not redeemed by making a strong point that's worthy of discussion.
That the emperor is the one that shut it down in the first place. So some part of the statement is logically inconsistent.
It is not logically inconsistent. The "Imperial Manager"ial class mentioned in the OP is multifaceted. That is to say, there are warring factions within the ruling class who disagree on details about certain things. (other things they are fully aligned on such as stamping down on the working class)
Not really. He is just one of many imperial managers.
It’s the sort of comment that does nothing to inform or convince or really say anything. If you already agree with it the you’ll like it. If you don’t then it doesn’t tell you anything. Its only purpose is to stir things up.
Even if America is an empire and VoA is propaganda "Imperial Manager" doesn't seem very descriptive of what a judge does.
It does more describing work than what the word "judge" is doing here. So much so that it's controversial.
It's using criticisms which generally aren't even well-received in good faith conversation, stating them obtusely, and ultimately just disingenuously abusing them to support fascism which doesn't actually seek to reform but merely seeks to consolidate power.
I've long criticized the US foreign policy and the US economic empire. But with the fascists destroying every institution they can, I've become extremely conservative.
Leaving it with only Sputnik is not exactly helping humanity either.
There’s also “Xin hua” and many others, including BBC, CBC, etc., filling the void.
That’s a very extrinsic perspective, so let’s included the other far more powerful and consequential propaganda organs; the whole media, news, TV, movie, cultural conglomeration of the American empire. If you consume “mainstream” American news, TV, movies, etc. you are being propagandized way more powerfully than anything a Sputnik, RT, AJ, DW, BBC, etc. could ever hope to achieve.
It’s not any of these rather meaningless little foreign entities that cause the major swings in “opinion” in the America that cause people to abandoned their own supposed core beliefs by getting the new firmware updates through the telescreen. I would provide a clear example, but I also don’t want to give the impression that it’s any one party or ideology, the majority of people get their firmware updates beamed into their heads through the telescreen. That is what is actually filing the void of people’s minds, not the crumbs from RT or even the slightly bigger crumbs of the BBC, it’s the approved, authorized mainstream information streams emanating from the telescreen that update people’s whatToThink; be it who to vote for or who to bomb.
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Al Jazeera is great too.