Comment by ACCount37

5 days ago

Frankly, I don't buy that LeCun has that much of use to say about modern AI. Certainly not enough to justify an hour long podcast.

Don't get me wrong, he has some banger prior work, and the recent SIGReg did go into my toolbox of dirty ML tricks. But JEPA line is rather disappointing overall, and his distaste of LLMs seems to be a product of his personal aesthetic preference on research direction rather than any fundamental limitations of transformers. There's a reason why he got booted out of Meta - and it's his failure to demonstrate results.

That talk of "true understanding" (define true) that he's so fond of seems to be a flimsy cover for "I don't like the LLM direction and that's all everyone wants to do those days". He kind of has to say "LLMs are fundamentally broken", because if they aren't, if better training is all it takes to fix them, then, why the fuck would anyone invest money into his pet non-LLM research projects?

It is an uncharitable read, I admit. But I have very little charity left for anyone who says "LLMs are useless" in year 2026. Come on. Look outside. Get a reality check.

My opinions on the matter does not come from any experts and is coming from my own reason. I didn't see that video before I came across that comment.

>"LLMs are useless" in year 2026

Literally no one is saying this. It is just that those words are put into the mouths of the people that does not share the delusional wishful thinking of the "true believers" of LLM AI.

  • To be honest, I would prefer "I over-index on experts who were top of the line in the past but didn't stay that way" over "my bad takes are entirely my own and I am proud of it". The former has so much more room for improvement.

    >Literally no one is saying this.

    Did you not just advise me to go watch a podcast full of "LLMs are literally incapable of inventing new things" and "LLMs are literally incapable of solving new problems"?

    I did skim the transcript. There are some very bold claims made there - especially when LLMs out there roll novel math and come up with novel optimizations.

    No, not reliably. But the bar we hold human intelligence to isn't that high either.

    • >my bad takes are entirely my own and I am proud of it"

      Sure, but the same could apply to you as well.

      >"LLMs are literally incapable of inventing new things" and "LLMs are literally incapable of solving new problems"?

      You keep proving that you have trouble resolving closely related ideas. Those two things that you mention does not imply that they are "useless". They are a better search and for software development, they are useful for reviews (at least for a while). But it seems that people like you can only think in binary. It is either LLMs are god like AI, or they are useless.