Comment by rvnx
5 days ago
https://x.com/dhsgov/status/2034000845503693180?s=46
There is this promotional campaign on-going, it could be related
It seems to be an incentive for voluntarily departure
5 days ago
https://x.com/dhsgov/status/2034000845503693180?s=46
There is this promotional campaign on-going, it could be related
It seems to be an incentive for voluntarily departure
From an outside-US point of view, both of these links border on the satirical. The DHS one, with it's no-longer-funded/maintained banner, and the entire content, complete with the quote is just eye-brow raising.
I wonder if anyone did read through the accordian FAQs, especially this one:
> How will exit bonuses be issued to participants?
DHS is working with Project Homecoming partners on the disbursement of exit bonuses. Illegal aliens will receive the exit bonuses after they land in the country of arrival.
The delivery method will vary based on country-specific guidelines and regulations. However, no bank account is necessary for illegal aliens to receive their exit bonus. In most instances, illegal aliens will collect their exit bonus in their home country.
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Yeah, like _that_ is going to happen...
I had heard of that but it wasn’t until you posted the link that I actually read through it.
My question after actually reading it though is simple - how does it prevent fraud? Like you just need GPS and a selfie to verify. No bank account required! Since the nominal case is undocumented you don’t have ground truth to check against. What is stopping someone from using an eSIM, OpenClaw, and an emulator from self-deporting thousands of virtual persona at $2600 profit
It just seems poorly considered. I don’t know if they really thought this through.
The object is to create metrics that are plausible (or more specifically for which the knowledge of falsification is plausibly deniable), not to actually self deport people (although that could be viewed as a desirable side effect).
We can be sure that the weakness in this scheme is being exploited, since it was designed to maximise metrics, not results.
Objectively, which is hard to say because I’m just obviously not in this position, but if I were in the United States legally and I’m looking at three options…
1. I take self-deportation offer. At Christmas it was $3000 a person, but usually $1000, a commercial plane ticket anywhere, and I can come back to the US upon following the legal method. I can say goodbye to people I can sell my things. I can do this on my own timeline within reason.
2. I’ve risk it and trying to invade ice for the next three years minimum. If Vance wins, I need to make it to at least 2032 without showing up on any radar. I’m careful and looking over my shoulder constantly and work is a never ending dread.
3. I am caught by ICE. I have absolutely no claim to stay in the US. I can sit in a detention center while an NGO funded lawyer tells me that I do. And in high likelihood, I am sent back with no money on a cargo jet and I’m banned from the United States forever. This happens at any moment.
Practically speaking, I just cannot picture taking option two which could be three at any time. The fact is, I would know without a doubt, unfair or not that I am here legally, that my state would apply in any European country as well. I cannot fathom how option one is not the best option. Perhaps I’m too risk adverse.
"A commercial plane ticket anywhere" != the legal right to go anywhere
Pretty much you go back to your country of origin
Typically people take on the immense risk and challenge of leaving their country of origin to come here because their country of origin has really bad problems
Those problems likely still exist or have gotten worse over the last several years due to (if nothing else) COVID further separating the US economy from the rest of the world's
> Pretty much you go back to your country of origin
Is this not just? Is this not what every other country in the world would do? Is there a European country you can stay in illegally? Do any of them run remigration programs with cash and free flights to where you came from?
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>> Pretty much you go back to your country of origin I'm completely out of my depths there, can you explain how will they know my country of origin if I'm undocumented?
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>A commercial plane ticket anywhere" != the legal right to go anywhere Pretty much you go back to your country of origin
Most passports grant at least a medium term admission to dozens of countries, and long term to a few.
1. You will be deported to your country of origin one way ticket; there is no picking and choosing here 3. If you are detained by ICE even if you do have legal status they will endlessly pressure you into singing away your rights, you will be lucky to even speak to you NGO lawyer because every few days you are shipped between detention locations. Even if you choose to self-deport you have to be detained by ICE and could be in custody for a number of days before you are shipped out of the country. The lawyer is not going to sugar coat your situation but if you want to fight there are legal avenues to do so. Also you cannot be banned from the USA forever the max the DHS can issue is a 10-year ban
Your number 3 makes no sense, if you have “signed your rights away” why would they move you? For fun?
But let’s say that’s the case… doesn’t that just prove my point that if you are here illegally, that it make no sense to stay?
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This administration changes its tune based on what business/tech leaders are telling them[0][1]. There's no doubt that ICE will be used for selective enforcement (as we've seen them used at American protests) but some immigrants are probably staying based on the reality that business interests are more important.
Also, I would be hesitant to say that immigrants being targeted by ICE are "illegal" as we saw some be detained/deported after speaking out against the war in Gaza[2]. Also, a lot claim asylum at the border which is a legal process.
> and I can come back to the US upon following the legal method
That process in reality takes a really long time due to the federal immigration system being strained. The 2024 border bill tried to address this by adding more immigration judges and asylum officers but Trump told Republicans to kill it because it'd make Biden look good. So far all we got was a massive DHS funding increase that allowed Kristi Noem to funnel $100M+ to herself and her friends and kill two American citizens with ICE.
0: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/15/us/politics/farm-labor-tr...
1: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5601588-trump-h1...
2: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/2026/03/17/immigrati...
> The 2024 border bill
Oh ya, I remember that. The Democrat bill with a few Republicans that conservatives call RINOs on board. Collins, McConnell, Murkowski, etc.
Again, objectively, it does look bad that bill was to secure the border but Trump Admin seems to have done that without a bill.
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1. If ICE isn't getting paid, how likely is it that you, as an illegal alien, would be? And who says you wouldn't simply be detained anyway when you go to claim your check/prepaid gift card? That's what happened to people when they were lined up outside immigration court and following the agreed-upon process.
I never get why people think these things will work. The only ones who take deals like this are honest people who are struggling. Criminals don’t self deport, they want to stay, not leave. It’s the same in Europe, they make laws to deport people for small bureaucratic details, honest people say “yes sir” and leave, but the criminals don’t give a shit, they just stay. So you deport the good ones and keep the bad ones, what the hell do you get from that? I guess the real point is that nobody in politics really cares about illegal aliens and criminals, they only want the power that comes from populism.
That thing in the lake in the China poster, is that some AI nightmare hybrid between a Japanese Shinto shrine and a Chinese pagoda (EDIT: no, it seems to be real: https://img.visiontimes.com/2022/01/hangzhou-ge36163601_1920... - it's just the color that looks more like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Itsukushima_Shrine_Torii_...)? And of course the Taj Mahal in the India poster only has one tower. But I wouldn't put it past the current administration if they really printed 100,000 of these low-effort AI slop posters. The designer probably got a boatload of money for them too, after all the extremely generous budget increase for ICE has to go somewhere...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remigration
I can't believe the official US gov posts these things. Between this, the CoD inspired war propaganda and Hegseth semi-irgasning on live TV while describing how they're going to kill and destroy everything "evil" we're really scraping the bottom. Is there anyone in these organizations who has an ounce of morality or humanity left? Or even just any sense taste really