Comment by ck2
4 days ago
btw fertilizer prices are now 40% higher
this is going to destroy world economy on every angle
fuel and now food
it's like the Israeli's figured out the answer to their problem was to make it everyone's problem
how about we stop giving them offensive weapons, defensive only or we'll be going through this every decade
We shouldn't even be giving them defensive weapons because that only enables them to wage war without consequence. In this specific case its a moot point since we joined this war in the most direct way possible but in general every time we shoot down one country's missiles but not the other we are participating in the war, especially when the side we protect is the aggressor.
> this is going to destroy world economy on every angle
Oil prices were around $100 for a lot of the early 2010s. It's been three weeks. Calm down.
Even at $100 oil is the cheapest it's ever been historically. OPEC nations don't measure inflation in terms of U.S. CPI. They use gold as their benchmark. In 1969 a barrel of oil was worth $400 in today's money. What's incredible is even with the recent price rally, you can still buy oil at $71/barrel if you're willing to wait a few years to get your oil, due to the extreme backwardation of oil futures. That's an 82% discount over the historical norm. Also in real terms oil was worth about $500/barrel in the 2000s.
Its going to get a *lot* worse.
If that was known for certain it would be priced in already.
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Any effective defensive weapon is an offensive weapon, in that it allows you to commit other resources to offense, or defend against a retaliation in response to an escalating offense on your part.
Yeah, any kind of aid (e.g. food or medicine) allows the people you're aiding to spend more on the military if they want. I guess the only way around it is to set limits on someone's military capability and make aid conditional on not crossing these limits.
Why are you blaming Israel? Iran has been fueling the fires for year by send piles of money and weapons to anyone who had a serious plan to attack Israel.
Not that Israel is perfect, but there is plenty of blame to go around and recognizing that reality is required before we can even try to think of a solution. (I don't have one)
Because they're the ones that poured water onto the burning pan of oil. Nobody is claiming that they created the problem in its entirety, but they have made it significantly worse this month.
There are vague allegations of Iran being the "leading state sponsor of terror" on one scale, and then Israel openly doing a genocide and starting wars of aggression and assassinating countless civilian and military leaders on the other scale, with a growing number of American bodies as cannon fodder.
It is up to you to decide where justice lies.
Nah, there's nothing vague around their funding and training of various militaries and militias in the area. There's more than enough war crimes on both sides to go around, and any concept of justice that is predicated on prosecuting one side exclusively is simply bankrupt. If Israeli civilians are fair game because of Israel's war crimes, then American civilians are fair game for the same reason. And I reject any theory of justice that bites that particular bullet.
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Are you blaming Israel for american troops in Iran? Is the US not a sovreign nation anymore?
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I give a lot of the blame to the government of Israel because it seems (according to the Trump administration) there was no real reason to attack except for Israel was going to attack and we would become targets if they did.
High ranking people in Trump's own administration (or at least until very recently) have openly stated Israel was the main reason why we got involved.
Sure seems to me in terms of our current situation, Israel really wanting to get involved in a strike is the but-for cause. At least according to what the Trump administration has stated.
and why do we care? we elected “America First” President, not “Isreal First, America who gives a hoot”
And netanyahu funded Hamas, seems like Israel should target him.
Netanyahu did not fund Hamas. You might be thinking of when Israel allowed Qatar to provide aid funds for some Gazan civil servants, infrastructure projects, etc.