Comment by bluGill

4 days ago

Why are you blaming Israel? Iran has been fueling the fires for year by send piles of money and weapons to anyone who had a serious plan to attack Israel.

Not that Israel is perfect, but there is plenty of blame to go around and recognizing that reality is required before we can even try to think of a solution. (I don't have one)

Because they're the ones that poured water onto the burning pan of oil. Nobody is claiming that they created the problem in its entirety, but they have made it significantly worse this month.

There are vague allegations of Iran being the "leading state sponsor of terror" on one scale, and then Israel openly doing a genocide and starting wars of aggression and assassinating countless civilian and military leaders on the other scale, with a growing number of American bodies as cannon fodder.

It is up to you to decide where justice lies.

  • Nah, there's nothing vague around their funding and training of various militaries and militias in the area. There's more than enough war crimes on both sides to go around, and any concept of justice that is predicated on prosecuting one side exclusively is simply bankrupt. If Israeli civilians are fair game because of Israel's war crimes, then American civilians are fair game for the same reason. And I reject any theory of justice that bites that particular bullet.

    • No one denies that Iran has strategic partnerships in the region. The question comes down to whether you believe armed resistance is ever legitimate or you blanket-dismiss it as "terrorism", in order to justify the territorial encroachment, ethnic cleansing, or mass murder that is brazenly perpetrated by Israel.

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  • Are you blaming Israel for american troops in Iran? Is the US not a sovreign nation anymore?

    • This is a valid question, and the answer is unfortunately no. There's a lot to unpack there but basically the president is acting unilaterally and in a manner which advance the interests of foreign nations.

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I give a lot of the blame to the government of Israel because it seems (according to the Trump administration) there was no real reason to attack except for Israel was going to attack and we would become targets if they did.

High ranking people in Trump's own administration (or at least until very recently) have openly stated Israel was the main reason why we got involved.

Sure seems to me in terms of our current situation, Israel really wanting to get involved in a strike is the but-for cause. At least according to what the Trump administration has stated.

and why do we care? we elected “America First” President, not “Isreal First, America who gives a hoot”

And netanyahu funded Hamas, seems like Israel should target him.

  • Netanyahu did not fund Hamas. You might be thinking of when Israel allowed Qatar to provide aid funds for some Gazan civil servants, infrastructure projects, etc.