Comment by dylan604
6 hours ago
someone designing for mobile first and wanted to maximize screen space. we don't have to be obtuse about it. it was an idea that just didn't go over as well as hoped. clearly, some people like it. it's not your cup of tea, great. now, we all know your feelings. next time i build a site, i'll be sure to get your opinions first.
> maximize screen space
But it's not maximizing it, that's the whole problem. It keeps coming back and blocking the line I'm reading. If they actually wanted to maximize screen space, it is trivial to just leave the top bar at the top of the page and not make it reappear when I scroll slightly back, no js/css needed.
It's not that hard of a concept to understand is it? You scroll down to read content so it disappears to maximize screen. If you start to scroll up, there's a pretty decent chance you might be wanting to go back to the top. If so, here's a shortcut. If not, then yeah it's annoying so you scroll up a bit and then scroll down again to make it go away. It's not the worst idea. It's not something everyone likes. I'm not exactly a fan, yet I'm not so distressed by it as others like yourself. It's less annoying than liquid glass to me.
Others have tried saving undoing scroll to the top with buttons that appear in the margins with "Back To Top" labels. Is it better? worse? It's just another idea. Scrolling all the way back to the top for site navigation on longer pages is annoying. Nothings perfect.
You cannot please all people all the time.
This kind of malaise is why everything feels mobile-only now.
Even on mobile, where I most frequently encounter it, it really stinks. I don't know where you found any personality who actually likes it, outside of your own head.
If you really must show me the content of the header because in your judgement I can _NOT_ be left alone to read the article I opened instead of your critical header info, show me first and once, and let me access it again off the hamburger menu if it's that damn important.
If you know so much about how people actually use the web, you would also know that they almost NEVER actually see or read what is in those damn drop-down or pop-up headers/footers.
Dead serious, you could monitor me, and 10sec after I dealt with one of those headers, offer me a million dollars to tell you what was in it, and if I didn't you'd shoot me, you'd shoot me 999 times out of 1000. I may be a bit better self-trained for ad-blindness than many, but I know I'm nowhere near unique.
Whoever is selling them to the advertisers is defrauding them.
>>next time i build a site, i'll be sure to get your opinions first.
Seriously, with that attitude, it is obvious you think you are so much better than every reader that you do not need to check their opinion. And it is even more obvious the opinion that needs to be held in check is yours.
> I don't know where you found any personality who actually likes it, outside of your own head.
That's probably because I don't like it myself. You thinking I did like it is something in your head.
As a developer, I can understand why it was created. Sometimes, ideas sound good as a concept, but you really don't know if it is or not until it's actually done. I find this much less annoying than sites that hijack the scroll bar to do their own cool scrolling. For somethings, it's neat. Kind of like some Flash sites did some cool things. It's the ones that try to be like the cool thing but have a totally different site where it just doesn't fit. Those are the really annoying sites. I don't like a lot of the way lots of other developers have implemented things. I just make a note of something I found annoying, and avoid doing that thing on my projects. I'm only able to do things I'm in control of, and try hard to recognize when it's not in my control and just move along. I don't let it ruin my day.