Comment by stavros
4 days ago
If they manage to expand their lineup a bit, that'll be my next phone. Or, if a company makes a phone with GrapheneOS preinstalled, I'm giving them my money.
Fuck Google for doing this, and Play Integrity making me unable to use banks is even worse.
> if a company makes a phone with GrapheneOS preinstalled, I'm giving them my money.
FWIW you can buy a Pixel (new or 2nd hand) and install GrapheneOS via the Web https://grapheneos.org/install/web with nothing (genuinely nothing) installed on your computer and get it working in ~15min (depending on your connection to download the ROM) out of which maybe ~2min will be your interacting with the setup process.
I initially bought an /e/OS precisely with your requirement, namely I "just" want a phone that works when I receive it, no tinkering, but having installed GrapheneOS myself few days (or weeks?) ago I can tell you, it's really straightforward.
> with nothing (genuinely nothing) installed on your computer
Not 100% accurate. You need a browser that supports WebUSB[0] which are just Chromium based ones, not Safari or Firefox.
[0]https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/WebUSB_API
Agreed but that's in the requirements. I meant to say assuming your setup matches the requirements but that's indeed a shortcoming. Thanks for clarifying.
They're actually partnering with Motorola and have phones coming out next year! It sounds like they'll be the Motorola Signature, Razr and Fold (iirc).
That's great news, thanks! I can keep my phone for another year.