Comment by _pdp_

4 days ago

Our company started migrating our tech stack from USA to EU. We are about 90% there with a few small dependencies that could be resolved but we have not yet tackled.

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flowerthoughts  4 days ago

Could you summarize the easy and hard aspects? Have you had any unexpected benefits or downsides?

  • spiderfarmer  3 days ago

    For me:

    - SES was a big one. There was no affordable alternative at my (not big, not small) scale.

    - I'm still waning myself personally of GMail. That dependency took decades to build and it will take years for all ties to sever.

    • koyote  3 days ago

      What is the difficulty in getting away from gmail?

      I did it a few years ago and I simply signed up for Fastmail and had gmail forward all email there. It forwards to a specific e-mail address so I can see if there are still people/companies that use the old email address. The painful part was going through all my accounts to update the e-mail, but you can do it in stages if you follow the above.

pjmlp  3 days ago

Including EU sponsored programming languages and OSes?

This is something I think it is a blind spot we have and not big answer, because even if we take into account FOSS, ISO and ECMA languages, the biggest sponsors for those toolchains are US companies.

It will take decades to go back to the cold war days, of hardware, programming languages and OSes with European origin.

  • deaux  2 days ago

    > EU sponsored programming languages

    Those really don't matter.

    > OSes

    If you're talking about "US sponsoring" of Linux distros, then that doesn't matter either. If you mean Android and iOS, then you're right.

    There's a super simple heuristic here. Does China care? If not, it doesn't matter. China doesn't care about adopting a Chinese-made programming language instead of Python or Typescript or Rust, meaning control over that isn't important. They do care about OS, which is why they put effort into increasing market share of phones with no American OS.

mr_00ff00  3 days ago

What are some of the biggest EU alternatives for US big tech?

When I Google this I find a lot of options, but not sure which are actually mature tech companies vs start-up hopefuls

  • _pdp_  3 days ago

    IMHO there are not that many and this is a good thing. You can build them.