Comment by panda-giddiness
4 days ago
What a disingenuous comparison. The wiki article you've linked ("List of killings by law enforcement officers in Germany") sums to 552 people over the last 100 years. In contrast, the corresponding wiki article on the US ("Lists of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States" [1]) estimates more than 900 deaths per year. Indeed, the number of slayings is so great that the article does not tabulate the sum in a single table (as the German article does) but instead links to separate wiki articles with tabulated results by month.
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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_killings_by_law_enfor...
>The wiki article you've linked ("List of killings by law enforcement officers in Germany") sums to 552 people over the last 100 years
I think we can probably agree that this number is not very accurate.
Over the last 100 years, almost certainly not. For the most recent decade? Yes, of course I would expect these statistics to be fairly accurate.
Between 2021 and 2025 (inclusive), Wikipedia lists 68 dead in Germany versus 5882 dead in the US, despite the US only being ~4 times larger. More people have been killed by police in the US this year than in Germany in the past ten years, and it's not even April yet.
Per capita vs absolute numbers seems particularly relevant here.
There are four times as many people in the US.
Germany has four cities with around a million people.
The U.S. has at least 15.
Also, absolute numbers don't reflect justified shootings, which is an entirely different and much more nuanced conversation.
No part of this should be taken to mean that I don't think there's a problem in the US, I just object to complex issues being overly simplified.
Per capita vs absolute numbers are not especially relevant in this case. The figures differ by orders of magnitude.
> 552 people over the last 100 years
What a disingenuous comment. Do we really think that is the case?
You ignored my other link. Imagine the outrage EU would have had if US seized immigrants jewelry. Yet, Denmark gleefully does that.
Funnily, I had friends from Europe participate in the No Kings protest here, while coming from countries that have literal kings.
> Imagine the outrage EU would have had if US seized immigrants jewelry
The US literally deports people to concentration camps in countries with no civil liberties. Many have disappeared there. A whole other group have been raped and become pregnant and are being moved around to force births.
And you are concerned about fucking jewelry. Genuinely, are you taking a piss here?
CBP does it too https://holdcbpaccountable.org/abuses/confiscation-of-proper...
And here's the US laws for it, explained https://leppardlaw.com/federal/forfeiture-seizure/federal-se...
Trump issued an executive order that explicitly allows seizure of assets https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/trump-administr...
It's your source, not mine; if you have a better one, post it. I won't do your own research for you.
> Funnily, I had friends from Europe participate in the No Kings protest here, while coming from countries that have literal kings.
This is either disingenuous or misunderstands the nature of European constitutional monarchies.
Don't discount that it could be both. It's still early in some parts of the US, they might not have had their coffee yet.