Comment by jiggawatts

1 day ago

Over the last two decades Hungary reversed course from a democracy joining the west to an authoritarian dictatorship in bed with the Russians.

Hence, everything their government does is the opposite of what a typical European Union member would approve of.

No Hungary is just not joining the collective of western elitists. Instead they joined Slavic group of elitists. But they are as bad as their neighbours. The EU itself is nothing better than a authoritarian state. In the EU you can be put in prison for being pro Russian or pro Chinese. Your company can be made obsolete when not complying with absurt unfair regulations. The whole of the EU is controlled by foreign companies having zero interest in the well being of its people

I wonder what it would take to expel them from the EU...

  • It's simply not possible. EU law has no provisions for kicking a malignant country out. It was simply not foreseen. They can only decide to leave themselves. Which orban will never do because his oligarchs make billions off EU subsidies.

    If it were it would have happened already.

    • They cannot make them leave the EU, no. But Hungary can be:

      - kicked out of the Schengen Treaty

      - kicked out of the NATO

      - fined under EU breach of contract proceedings

      - withheld financial support as long as they do not pay these fines

      - forced through customs policy, which is sole EU competence, to stop compensating lost EU support with Chinese money

      Honestly, I'd be in full support of some above listed actions if the elections in April show the current will of the Hungarian people misaligned with shared EU values.

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    • Order is on the verge of breakdown I wouldn't be surprised if they just lose their voice/get kicked out.

      Trump etc are tearing down international order. The ramifications of this will be decades long.