Comment by olalonde
1 day ago
As a philosophical zombie myself[0], I'm well aware of how hard it is to define and test consciousness. That's why I tried to clarify what I meant with: desire for self-preservation and intrinsic motivation. Which LLMs clearly lack, don't you agree? Also, I'm not saying that those things couldn't be programmed in, just that so far, they don't seem necessary.
[0] I lack a conscious experience and qualia
How can you tell that you lack conscious experience and qualia?
They assert that they dont have them, in the same way you (presumably) assert that you do have them. Neither have any further evidence and one is not a prioi more likely than the other.
Yep, this basically. I tend to get along well with solipsists.
> desire for self-preservation and intrinsic motivation
I’d be curious about how you’re showing they lack either of those
They don't try to prevent you from deleting them and they don't output anything unless prompted.
"they don't output anything unless prompted"
Unprompted they're not unlike a human sleeping or in a coma. Those states don't preclude consciousness in other states.
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