Comment by john_strinlai

5 days ago

if you make an exception to obeying licenses because "that person/company/country are bad" or whatever, exceptions start sneaking in all over the place, and the entire fabric deteriorates quickly afterwards.

edit: did not expect people to be in favor of blatantly ignoring licenses. huh.

anyone want to tell me how we determine who the bad people are that we can ignore their licenses, and who the good people are where we will honor them? what is the criteria?

We could have reciprocity laws. If a country won't respect software licences, or permits hacking gangs as long as they don't rob from their own, then they should get the same treatment in return.

I don't usually buy slippery slope arguments.

It's not like Russia currently respects the Rule of Law.

  • >It's not like Russia currently respects the Rule of Law.

    but... we do?

    the argument is apparently that we also should ignore the rule of law. i dont think that would be a great idea for society, but i am just some dude.

    • The argument is that we should only obey the rule of law with counterparties who reciprocate, rather than voluntarily hamstring ourselves for no benefit other than moral purity.

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I mean, that sort of already did happen quickly in Feb 2022, with contracts a lot more significant than open source software... like when leases for 400 commercial jets were terminated over night, and Russia responded by seizing them. And the US started seizing yachts, real estate, and bank accounts of oligarchs.

I'm not in favor of ignoring licenses, but practically speaking, they require legal nexus to function.

China has been at this for centuries and is doing just fine. I can imagine Russia has too for a while and this in particular seems to have had very few negative consequences for them.

  • china also uses child labor, and are doing just fine. shall we adopt that practice as well?

    different in severity, but same logic.

    • Completely irrelevant.

      > the entire fabric deteriorates quickly afterwards.

      It just disproves this entirely. China has been at it for decades, which entire fabric has detoriated? Have licenses been meaningless for decades because of the existence of China?

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