Comment by reimertz
4 days ago
watched this with teary eyes. it truly shows what we can do when we come together and challenge ourselves for the greater good of humanity.
4 days ago
watched this with teary eyes. it truly shows what we can do when we come together and challenge ourselves for the greater good of humanity.
A real bright spot compared to lately. The messages of positivity and comradery in the live stream were a nice contrast
(That being said, I can't believe they cut to people on the ground during SRB separation!)
edit: here's better footage from Everyday Astronaut: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOsSRRBMNoc&t=24512s
I completely agree on all points.
On your parenthetical point, I also agree: some really weird camera selections, and frustrating dropouts, during the crucial moments of the launch.
Nevertheless, a real triumph, and I particularly enjoyed the "full send" remark from (I think) the commander. I also really enjoy the fact that the livestream is relatively light on commentary and that most of what you hear is from mission control and the crew.
I was cussing at the director of that video stream during that. It was a totally useless shot as well that they lingered on that already had me bothered, and then to cut back to the SRBs fully separated had me in full contempt. Nothing to see here and everything to miss. It's like music videos showing the singer doing nothing while the guitarist is shredding a solo. Like WTF. You have one job, and you totally botched the hell out of it. You get what you pay for I guess. Lowest bidding contractor???
I couldn’t believe it when that happened. Intern at the controls maybe.
I took that to be the most dangerous part and they didn’t want to televise a Challenger II.
What happened to Challenger -- burn-through of a joint in the SRB motor casing -- happened well before scheduled SRB separation.
It was probably deemed a relatively high-risk moment which they did not want to broadcast in case of failure like it was when the Challenger mission exploded.
NASA had another feed that was just the view of the launch from Kennedy Space Center, no commentary. It was a few seconds ahead of the main broadcast, so it seems they already had a delay built in for the masses.
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Still an odd choice. It is what it is. It’s a fairly risky mission and they chose to go ahead with that. Yet they avert their eyes, like a child watching a scary scene in a movie. Like it’s somehow ok to actually risk lives of four people, but not ok to televise that.
I tried watching his video and he is insufferable. I wish him well, glad he's enthusiastic, but this isn't a CS:GO final, it's one of the most widely watched rocket launches in 50 years. You do not need to be screaming at me in the final ten seconds about how the core stage is lit, over the actual professional saying core stage lit. You do not need to repeat to me that this is a momentous rocket launch twice at T-30.
As someone who has watched launches before, it is so much better when the broadcasters keep it mostly together, and know when to be silent for periods of time. He does not know how to do that.
Agreed! I yelled at the screen when I saw that they cut away.
I also loved the shot of stage separation, but they cut away from that way too soon also!
Same. I watched Apollo 11 launch in 1969 when I was four. Watched on our neighbor's TV. We didn't have one.
Imagine what we could accomplish if we didn't suck.
I’m not American. The Artemis launch feels to me like a beacon that the America the rest of us looked up to isn’t gone.
sending people to the moon was never useful. We can get more done with robots, both cheaper and safer. There are plenty of more useful things we can do instead.
okay what is more useful is a matter of opinion. you can disagree, but I stand by it
I've never understood this hyper-utilitarian perspective. It just seems divorced from what emotionally inspires most people.
Most of what people find inspiring doesn't directly provide a lot of objective utility, and is often quite dangerous for the individuals who choose to participate. Reaching the highest peaks in the last century, antarctic expeditions, pushing the limits of racing vehicles, attempting a sub two hour marathon, and athletes defining new tricks and styles in extreme sports are all objectively pretty useless in terms of their direct outputs -- and yet I find it all a whole lot more inspiring than my computer getting twice as fast, even if the latter is of way more objective utility to my life.
Min-maxing ROI in a spreadsheet just doesn't do it for me in the same way. There's absolutely a place for that and in a world of limited resources it should be how we spend most of our effort, and it is! The amount of money spent on efforts like this is _tiny_ at the scale of nations, and is certainly a much smaller and better use of funds than wars and corruption.
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Getting people to the moon is plentry useful for getting an objective you can hang all kinds of useful advancements off.
Then you are wrong (and maybe MAGA? to ignore facts like that). An estimated three orders of magnitude of more science was done in the 12 days astronauts were on the moon than if robots had done those missions. HSF costs about, but it returns a lot of results as well.
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We didn't have robots in 1969, and the Apollo missions resulted in many of the technologies that make modern robotics (and robotic space missions) possible.
It may not be useful but we'll do it anyway. And then it may come to have utility.
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That’s fair but the amount of interest in this crewed mission vs. prior uncrewed and robotic moon missions shows that many people find manned missions more compelling.
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I did. I designed an asic in the navigation avionics. I’m glad this inspires people to do the next thing.
Why are you homeless?
Because I have schizo affective disorder, OCD and a partial immune deficiency. And because people treat houses like investments so now I can’t afford to live anywhere anymore, except in a 20 six-year-old Van. And also because people don’t care. mentally ill people are garbage.
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