Comment by schonfinkel
11 hours ago
Kinda reminds me of the story of king Croesus of Lydia, who asked the oracle of Delphi whether he should wage war against Cyrus the Great, the Oracle promptly told him that by doing so he would "destroy a great empire". Croesus then promptly attacked the Persians and lost.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croesus#War_against_Persia_and...
After Israel, Iran is home to the second largest Jewish population in the Middle East. Current estimates are that 15,000 to 20,000 Jews live in Iran.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Jews
Tehran to this day hosts Dr. Sapir Hospital and Charity Center, a Jewish charity hospital, the largest charity among the religious minorities in Iran.
Ayatollah Khomeini himself wrote a personal note thanking the hospital for its help after the revolution succeeded.
https://www.csmonitor.com/1998/0203/020398.intl.intl.3.html
""" It comes as a surprise to many visitors to discover that Iran, a country so hostile to Israel and with a reputation for intolerance, is home to a small but vibrant Jewish community that is an officially recognized religious minority under Iran's 1979 Islamic Constitution.
"Khomeini didn't mix up our community with Israel and Zionism - he saw us as Iranians," says Haroun Yashyaei, a film producer and chairman of the Central Jewish Community in Iran."""
Iran's objection is not with Judaism but with the occupation and the meddling in their affairs through proxies.
Ahmad Yassin also commented on this: https://x.com/incontextmedia/status/1720877046664986750
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That article lists the population as 9100.
That’s not even a little correct there’s 100s of thousands more in Palestine than Iran
Like you just posted a straight up lie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_city
Palestine doesn't exist, from Israel's point of view.
To accuse parent of lying is taking it much too far
To clarify, the quote comes directly from the Wikipedia article on Iranian Jews [1], which cites a BBC source [2].
The phrasing is "After Israel, it is home to the second-largest Jewish population in the Middle East."
The links you posted actually support my point rather than refute it.
The "Jewish population by country" page lists Iran at 8,500–20,000. Palestine is not listed as a separate entry with a larger Jewish population.
You may be referring to Israeli settlers in the West Bank, but those individuals are Israeli citizens counted under Israel's population in every demographic source I'm aware of.
Counting them under "Palestine" would require simultaneously recognizing Palestine as a sovereign state while attributing Israeli citizens to it, which no standard demographic dataset does.
If you have a source that counts a Jewish population in a recognized state called Palestine that exceeds Iran, I'd genuinely be interested to see it. But calling a direct Wikipedia/BBC citation a "straight up lie" is a strong claim that should probably come with a stronger source and also shows, you arrive with an ulterior agenda, that I at least, do not have.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Jews [2] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5367892.stm
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Hence the term "Delphic", commonly used in English to mean "dangerously ambiguous".
But in this case, there's not really much ambiguity - Trump is openly threatening genocide and, as a result, is destroying any remaining moral authority that the USA might once have had.
I thought I heard a cork pop somewhere East of me.
Does anyone knows why current US administration keeps aligning with Chinese interests in their actions while proclaiming that China is their main adversary?
They even send JD Vance to support Orban in his elections. The same Orban and Hungary which Xi Jinping supports and recently visited out of all the EU.
You cannot agree with someone on so many actions and keep pretending that you are against each other.
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Putin will be loving it, but I guess China that must be likely to emerge as the real winners from this.
At what point are the US military expected to refuse unlawful orders? Some form of high-level mutiny might actually be the best way forward for America right now.
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and in front of a "Миссия выполнена" poster
Is he? One could also read it as destroying their infrastructure. Which would be devastating to the population, but a far cry from genocide.
I don’t think making unbased claims adds to the discussion; the facts are already severe enough to warrant their own critique.
He said "a whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again." To me that sounds more like a threat to destroy a civilization than an announcement that the US will be targeting specific parts of Iranian infrastructure, but maybe you are better at reading between the lines than I am.
If you unplug a life support system and a person dies did you kill a person or just disable their critical infrastructure?
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Read the tweet in full. Bridges and power plants don't "die".
Genocide literally means killing a nation, and that's what Trump is threatening. If he achieves those aims by destroying vital infrastructure, it's just as much genocide as if he does it by any other means.
Article IIc of the Genocide Convention would likely cover that particular case, but I'll note that that's just your reading of it - Trump hasn't actually given specifics.
What he definitely has done, though, is make a clear statement of intent. And, historically, the most difficult part in proving genocide has been with demonstrating intent. Trump's just made that bit easy.
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