Comment by CapricornNoble

16 hours ago

>That’s millions of Iranians. My in-laws who lives in Tehran are anti-regime, along with every single person on my wife’s side of the family: aunts, uncles, cousins. Everybody.

How do you square this with the absolutely massive pro-government rallies that we've seen all across Iran for the entire duration of the conflict? Millions of Iranians opposed to the regime, in a country of 90 million+, might still be a fringe minority.

If you asked some American expat their thoughts on MAGA, and they responded "China should bomb MAGA rallies so we can be free from the Republican party, my whole family in the US agrees".....that person would be considered a fringe lunatic, even if Trump's regime has record-low approval like it does now (and rightly deserves, I hope he is impeached and jailed).

We have limited data on this. There have been surveys, but survey data isn’t always very accurate.

Here was one survey that showed 81% disapproval of the Islamic Republic: https://gamaan.org/2023/02/04/protests_survey/

In a country of 90 million, if the regime has 20% supporters, that’s 18 million supporters.

Tehran population is 9 million, 20% of that is 1.8 million.

So it’s easy to understand why you might see videos of hundreds or thousands of regime supporters in the streets. That doesn’t mean they’re the majority.

  • Hey man, 60% of americans disapprove of the current government, that doesn't mean they want to nuke Washington DC.

    • All I can tell you is to go talk with Iranians. I don’t know where you live, but every major city has an Iranian expat community.

      All I’m trying to communicate is the conversations that I’ve had with my Iranian wife, her expat friends, and my in-laws in Tehran.

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  • Mint Press News has a good article about why Gamaan's methodology is unsound:

    https://www.mintpressnews.com/gamaan-iran-polling-regime-cha...

    • Thanks, I hadn’t seen that article before. Interesting read.

      My take is that GAMAAN likely overstates the opposition, but all surveys on Iran are imperfect, not just GAMAAN.

      I know Pew has done surveys in Iran, but didn’t directly ask if people support the regime.

      I personally believe that the opposition group is larger than the regime supporters. I think there’s enough data to infer that.

      But I’ll also admit that there’s probably a sizable percentage of ambivalent/non-revolutionary Iranians who would just be satisfied with a better economy.

I trust the people who are close to this more than what you hear on the news. My guess is 90%+ of the readers here know nothing of Iranians except what they read or hear on the news.

How many of you have been to Iran, have family members there, etc? I'm guessing very few.